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    • keyserK
      keyser Rebel Alliance @jddoxtator
      last edited by

      @jddoxtator To make this easy on yourself, try and connect a switch between the media converter and the original ISP router.
      Connect your pfSense to one switchport and set its WAN port to either no IP address, or a fixed random private IP address.
      Start a packet capture on WAN, and connect the ISP router to the switch.

      When the ISP router is connected it will attempt to get a IP address via DHCP frames which is broadcasted - and include the VLAN tag the ISP router is using.
      Those broadcasts should also reach your pfSense if the switch is a dumb non-managed Layer2 switch. If it is a smart VLAN capable/managed switch, this will not work, and you will have to setup a mirrorport/spanport on the switch which mirrors the ISP router port to your pfsense port.

      Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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        jddoxtator @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 Before setting VLAN 1

        I set the pfsense router back to stock and switched the WAN port from the ISP router to the pfsense router after the ISP router had connected.

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        • J
          jddoxtator
          last edited by

          Update: My old switch died, would not resolve DHCP anymore for some reason. Long story short, got a Cisco CBS220-24FP-4X capable of VLAN's and specifically PVST+

          Some interesting behavior after getting this switch installed and running.

          I set up a VLAN across one of the SFP 10Gbe ports and one of the copper 1Gbe ports. I then connected the fiber line directly to the switch SFP port and routers to the copper port.

          Pfsense picked up the WAN signal and did it's usual thing connecting at 20Mb/s. However, the ISP router would not connect at all with the switch routing the fiber to the copper port on the VLAN.

          There is something fundamentally different in how these two routers are connecting and I have no idea what.

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            Patch @jddoxtator
            last edited by

            @jddoxtator I still suspect putting a managed switch with port mirroring on the WAN line of your ISP router would be the most efficient way of finding out what works.

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            • J
              jddoxtator @Patch
              last edited by jddoxtator

              @patch I tried multiple setups and most gave me nothing at all on packet capture.

              I used multicast on 3 ports across a single VLAN and only once I captured the ISP router sending an ARP request for the same gateway that Pfsense uses, but it could not connect.

              Every other time there was no traffic to record.

              This was all the packets I got:

              1	0.000000	Calix_7a:06:4a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.83
              2	1.917011	172.31.16.23	224.0.0.1	ICMP	60	Mobile IP Advertisement (Normal router advertisement)
              3	10.450749	Calix_4c:f9:11	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.19.81
              

              Just a reminder, when the ISP router is connected directly, it connects with Gateway 192.24.57.1 not 172.31.16.1

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                @jddoxtator said in New Fiber install, fresh Pfsense install, only getting 20Mbps up/down:

                Cisco CBS220-24FP-4X

                That switch does port mirroring. Remove the VLANs from the switch. It needs to pass the tagged traffic from the ISP router so put two ports in port-vlan mode or whatever Cisco has renamed that.

                Then mirror one of those ports and capture on it.

                Steve

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                  jddoxtator @stephenw10
                  last edited by jddoxtator

                  @stephenw10 Ok, I deleted all VLAN's and my multicast's. Only problem is I'm not sure where port mirroring is in this switch. I'm guessing that this is more on the physical level under Port configuration. The only thing I see there that involves multiple ports is Link Aggregation. Could this be what I am looking for?

                  Edit: Found the manual online. I was looking in the wrong spot apparently. They put SPAN which is their port mirroring under the statistics tab.... strange choice but OK. Now the SPAN interface says I require a VLAN to define the mirror, so I'm guessing this is where I go to VLAN and select the two ports to have in the same VLAN group.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Nope not LAG. Looks like Cisco are using some combination of the terms mirroring, port monitoring and span port.

                    https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/csbss/CBS220/Adminstration-Guide/cbs-220-admin-guide/status-and-statistics.html?bookSearch=true#Cisco_Concept.dita_86e4dbba-7744-408d-b5e2-c55428a982b6
                    or
                    https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/csbss/CBS220/CLI-Guide/b_220CLI/port_monitor_commands.html

                    Steve

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                      jddoxtator @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 Think I almost have this figured out.

                      I have to list the two data ports as source then the listening port as destination all under the same session ID. Then they have to be in the same VLAN group and I think that should work. I hope, lets see.

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                      • J
                        jddoxtator
                        last edited by

                        Ok, so this setup gives me a bunch of local network ARP requests

                        1	0.000000	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        2	0.106019	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                        3	0.320230	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        4	0.609572	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        5	0.814689	ASUSTekC_f5:1f:a0	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.154
                        6	1.013517	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        7	1.105998	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                        8	1.330691	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        9	1.622972	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        10	1.828057	ASUSTekC_f5:1f:a0	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.154
                        11	2.346824	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        12	2.636239	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        13	3.357319	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        14	3.649568	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        15	4.106170	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                        16	4.370852	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        17	4.874859	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        18	5.105890	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                        19	5.384213	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        20	5.809578	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        21	5.881565	ASUSTekC_f5:1f:a0	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.154
                        22	5.893358	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        23	6.105790	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                        24	6.397349	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        25	6.822939	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        26	6.876218	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        27	6.894748	ASUSTekC_f5:1f:a0	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.154
                        28	6.904138	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        29	7.411112	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        30	7.836240	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        31	7.889569	ASUSTekC_8c:16:e1	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.116
                        32	7.908081	ASUSTekC_f5:1f:a0	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.154
                        33	8.423936	RivetNet_c8:5f:5d	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.134? Tell 192.168.1.121
                        34	8.453629	Calix_0c:ae:2c	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.249
                        35	8.453633	Calix_0c:ae:2c	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.249
                        
                        

                        ISP router still would not connect through this method. I think the VLAN isolation is not working as I am getting all my network devices.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          I've never tried that on a Cisco switch but....
                          It seems like you just need to set a session destination and choose a session ID and a local port.
                          Then set session source using the same session ID and set it to Rx and Tx.
                          Then as long as the ISP router traffic is passing the session source port you should see it on the destination port.

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                            jddoxtator @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 My mistake, I had some other ports still trunked into the VLAN. I have it isolated now and got much more useful information

                            1	0.000000	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            2	3.070015	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            3	6.130010	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            4	9.200069	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            5	12.260068	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            6	15.560215	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            7	15.560238	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            8	15.584241	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP Offer    - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            9	15.584268	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP Offer    - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            10	15.584554	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP Offer    - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            11	15.584578	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP Offer    - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            12	15.630099	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Request  - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            13	15.630121	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Request  - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            14	15.633695	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP ACK      - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            15	15.633706	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP ACK      - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            16	15.634197	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP ACK      - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            17	15.634208	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP ACK      - Transaction ID 0x163b8778
                            18	15.951848	Calix_1c:4f:67	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.19.199
                            19	15.951853	Calix_1c:4f:67	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.19.199
                            20	18.610414	Calix_6b:e8:f7	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.42
                            21	18.610417	Calix_6b:e8:f7	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.42
                            22	18.613395	Cisco_f2:da:7f	Calix_6b:e8:f7	ARP	60	172.31.16.1 is at 7c:69:f6:f2:da:7f
                            23	18.613400	Cisco_f2:da:7f	Calix_6b:e8:f7	ARP	60	172.31.16.1 is at 7c:69:f6:f2:da:7f
                            24	18.618696	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0x5f81 A stun-ca.calix.com A 99.79.144.131
                            25	18.618739	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0x5f81 A stun-ca.calix.com A 99.79.144.131
                            26	18.635840	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0x5f81 A stun-ca.calix.com A 99.79.144.131
                            27	18.635870	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0x5f81 A stun-ca.calix.com A 99.79.144.131
                            28	18.645352	99.79.144.131	172.31.17.42	CLASSIC-STUN	86	Message: Binding Response
                            29	18.645384	99.79.144.131	172.31.17.42	CLASSIC-STUN	86	Message: Binding Response
                            30	21.478185	Calix_07:31:f7	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.28
                            31	21.478190	Calix_07:31:f7	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.28
                            32	28.670541	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x8b10 A 0.ca.pool.ntp.org A 198.27.76.102 A 162.159.200.1 A 205.206.70.40 A 217.180.209.214
                            33	28.670575	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x8b10 A 0.ca.pool.ntp.org A 198.27.76.102 A 162.159.200.1 A 205.206.70.40 A 217.180.209.214
                            34	28.670688	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xbbba AAAA 0.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            35	28.670717	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xbbba AAAA 0.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            36	28.677733	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0xe1d8 A 1.ca.pool.ntp.org A 205.206.70.42 A 216.232.132.102 A 149.56.37.32 A 207.210.46.249
                            37	28.677747	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0xe1d8 A 1.ca.pool.ntp.org A 205.206.70.42 A 216.232.132.102 A 149.56.37.32 A 207.210.46.249
                            38	28.677932	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xe409 AAAA 1.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            39	28.677946	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xe409 AAAA 1.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            40	28.684459	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	152	Standard query response 0x3d28 A 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org A 65.108.76.171 A 206.108.0.132 A 216.6.2.70 A 198.199.14.18
                            41	28.684489	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	152	Standard query response 0x3d28 A 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org A 65.108.76.171 A 206.108.0.132 A 216.6.2.70 A 198.199.14.18
                            42	28.684607	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	143	Standard query response 0x5359 AAAA 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            43	28.684648	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	143	Standard query response 0x5359 AAAA 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            44	28.691310	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x7977 A 0.us.pool.ntp.org A 50.205.244.24 A 162.159.200.1 A 162.159.200.123 A 162.248.241.94
                            45	28.691340	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x7977 A 0.us.pool.ntp.org A 50.205.244.24 A 162.159.200.1 A 162.159.200.123 A 162.248.241.94
                            46	28.691468	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0x6d87 AAAA 0.us.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            47	28.691498	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0x6d87 AAAA 0.us.pool.ntp.org SOA b.ntpns.org
                            48	28.693444	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x8b10 A 0.ca.pool.ntp.org A 199.182.221.110 A 205.206.70.42 A 192.95.27.155 A 194.0.5.123
                            49	28.693478	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x8b10 A 0.ca.pool.ntp.org A 199.182.221.110 A 205.206.70.42 A 192.95.27.155 A 194.0.5.123
                            50	28.693535	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xbbba AAAA 0.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA c.ntpns.org
                            51	28.693550	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xbbba AAAA 0.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA c.ntpns.org
                            52	28.700935	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0xe1d8 A 1.ca.pool.ntp.org A 216.197.156.83 A 162.159.200.123 A 217.180.209.214 A 208.81.1.244
                            53	28.700967	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0xe1d8 A 1.ca.pool.ntp.org A 216.197.156.83 A 162.159.200.123 A 217.180.209.214 A 208.81.1.244
                            54	28.701152	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xe409 AAAA 1.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA i.ntpns.org
                            55	28.701182	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0xe409 AAAA 1.ca.pool.ntp.org SOA i.ntpns.org
                            56	28.701736	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	143	Standard query response 0x5359 AAAA 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org SOA e.ntpns.org
                            57	28.701767	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	143	Standard query response 0x5359 AAAA 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org SOA e.ntpns.org
                            58	28.708145	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x7977 A 0.us.pool.ntp.org A 64.251.10.152 A 50.205.244.113 A 204.93.207.12 A 69.164.213.136
                            59	28.708147	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	152	Standard query response 0x3d28 A 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org A 38.229.62.9 A 66.220.9.122 A 144.172.118.20 A 129.250.35.251
                            60	28.708160	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	141	Standard query response 0x7977 A 0.us.pool.ntp.org A 64.251.10.152 A 50.205.244.113 A 204.93.207.12 A 69.164.213.136
                            61	28.708165	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	152	Standard query response 0x3d28 A 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org A 38.229.62.9 A 66.220.9.122 A 144.172.118.20 A 129.250.35.251
                            62	28.714399	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0x6d87 AAAA 0.us.pool.ntp.org SOA f.ntpns.org
                            63	28.714429	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	132	Standard query response 0x6d87 AAAA 0.us.pool.ntp.org SOA f.ntpns.org
                            64	37.872289	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0xa7dc A gcs6-ca.calix.com A 52.60.181.28
                            65	37.872307	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0xa7dc A gcs6-ca.calix.com A 52.60.181.28
                            66	37.896074	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0xa7dc A gcs6-ca.calix.com A 52.60.181.28
                            67	37.896104	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0xa7dc A gcs6-ca.calix.com A 52.60.181.28
                            68	38.030652	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	74	8443 → 39182 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=62643 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=236259536 TSecr=5140577 WS=128
                            69	38.030679	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	74	[TCP Out-Of-Order] 8443 → 39182 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=62643 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=236259536 TSecr=5140577 WS=128
                            70	38.056085	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	203	Server Hello, Change Cipher Spec, Encrypted Handshake Message
                            71	38.056112	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	203	[TCP Retransmission] 8443 → 39182 [PSH, ACK] Seq=1 Ack=518 Win=62208 Len=137 TSval=236259561 TSecr=5140580
                            72	38.083558	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=822 Win=61952 Len=0 TSval=236259589 TSecr=5140582
                            73	38.083584	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 72#1] 8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=822 Win=61952 Len=0 TSval=236259589 TSecr=5140582
                            74	38.086084	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=2270 Win=60544 Len=0 TSval=236259591 TSecr=5140583
                            75	38.086096	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 74#1] 8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=2270 Win=60544 Len=0 TSval=236259591 TSecr=5140583
                            76	38.086141	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=3718 Win=59136 Len=0 TSval=236259591 TSecr=5140583
                            77	38.086143	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 76#1] 8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=3718 Win=59136 Len=0 TSval=236259591 TSecr=5140583
                            78	38.086540	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=4326 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259592 TSecr=5140583
                            79	38.086543	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 78#1] 8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=4326 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259592 TSecr=5140583
                            80	38.087740	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	340	Application Data
                            81	38.087767	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	340	[TCP Retransmission] 8443 → 39182 [PSH, ACK] Seq=138 Ack=4326 Win=58624 Len=274 TSval=236259593 TSecr=5140583
                            82	38.120573	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=412 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259626 TSecr=5140586
                            83	38.120599	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 82#1] 8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=412 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259626 TSecr=5140586
                            84	38.120613	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	97	Encrypted Alert
                            85	38.120620	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	97	[TCP Retransmission] 8443 → 39182 [PSH, ACK] Seq=412 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=31 TSval=236259626 TSecr=5140586
                            86	38.120625	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [FIN, ACK] Seq=443 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259626 TSecr=5140586
                            87	38.120629	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Out-Of-Order] 8443 → 39182 [FIN, ACK] Seq=443 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259626 TSecr=5140586
                            88	38.121583	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=444 Ack=4358 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259627 TSecr=5140586
                            89	38.121595	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 88#1] 8443 → 39182 [ACK] Seq=444 Ack=4358 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=236259627 TSecr=5140586
                            90	38.146682	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	74	8443 → 33372 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=62643 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=236259652 TSecr=5140589 WS=128
                            91	38.146708	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	74	[TCP Out-Of-Order] 8443 → 33372 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=62643 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=236259652 TSecr=5140589 WS=128
                            92	38.172161	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	203	Server Hello, Change Cipher Spec, Encrypted Handshake Message
                            93	38.172188	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	203	[TCP Retransmission] 8443 → 33372 [PSH, ACK] Seq=1 Ack=518 Win=62208 Len=137 TSval=236259678 TSecr=5140591
                            94	38.199727	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=1101 Win=61696 Len=0 TSval=236259705 TSecr=5140594
                            95	38.199753	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 94#1] 8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=1101 Win=61696 Len=0 TSval=236259705 TSecr=5140594
                            96	38.202039	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=2549 Win=60288 Len=0 TSval=236259707 TSecr=5140594
                            97	38.202065	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 96#1] 8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=2549 Win=60288 Len=0 TSval=236259707 TSecr=5140594
                            98	38.202077	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=3997 Win=58880 Len=0 TSval=236259707 TSecr=5140594
                            99	38.202084	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	[TCP Dup ACK 98#1] 8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=3997 Win=58880 Len=0 TSval=236259707 TSecr=5140594
                            100	38.202619	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 33372 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=4560 Win=58368 Len=0 TSval=236259708 TSecr=5140594
                            

                            the ISP router still didn't connect, but at least we have relevant info about it.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              If you have the source port in an 802.1q VLAN though it will not pass anything but that VLAN so whatever VLAN tagging the ISP router may or may not be using would get dropped and not appear there.
                              The ports the ISP router traffic is using need to pass all tagged traffic.

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                                jddoxtator @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 ok, so maybe RSPAN VLAN is not required for this then. Let me try without it.

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                                  jddoxtator
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                                  Alright same procedure without RSPAN VLAN.

                                  34	21.469965	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  35	21.469991	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Discover - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  36	21.477901	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP Offer    - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  37	21.477929	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP Offer    - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  38	21.610081	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Request  - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  39	21.610104	0.0.0.0	255.255.255.255	DHCP	342	DHCP Request  - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  40	21.619714	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP ACK      - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  41	21.619814	172.31.16.1	172.31.17.42	DHCP	398	DHCP ACK      - Transaction ID 0x6b391354
                                  42	23.471686	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  43	23.471688	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  44	24.470907	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  45	24.470913	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  46	25.470906	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  47	25.470911	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  48	28.471041	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  49	28.471046	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  50	29.306140	Calix_6b:e8:f7	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.42
                                  51	29.306145	Calix_6b:e8:f7	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 172.31.16.1? Tell 172.31.17.42
                                  52	29.306893	Cisco_f2:da:7f	Calix_6b:e8:f7	ARP	60	172.31.16.1 is at 7c:69:f6:f2:da:7f
                                  53	29.312275	64.235.98.226	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0x0d4a A gcs6-ca.calix.com A 52.60.181.28
                                  54	29.336235	8.8.8.8	172.31.17.42	DNS	93	Standard query response 0x0d4a A gcs6-ca.calix.com A 52.60.181.28
                                  55	29.338204	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	74	8443 → 40880 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=62643 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=237229642 TSecr=5237588 WS=128
                                  56	29.363891	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	203	Server Hello, Change Cipher Spec, Encrypted Handshake Message
                                  57	29.391025	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=822 Win=61952 Len=0 TSval=237229695 TSecr=5237593
                                  58	29.393327	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=2270 Win=60544 Len=0 TSval=237229697 TSecr=5237593
                                  59	29.393353	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=3718 Win=59136 Len=0 TSval=237229697 TSecr=5237593
                                  60	29.393884	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=4326 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=237229698 TSecr=5237593
                                  61	29.394462	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	340	Application Data
                                  62	29.426693	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [ACK] Seq=412 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=237229730 TSecr=5237597
                                  63	29.426706	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	97	Encrypted Alert
                                  64	29.426752	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [FIN, ACK] Seq=443 Ack=4357 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=237229730 TSecr=5237597
                                  65	29.426923	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 40880 [ACK] Seq=444 Ack=4358 Win=58624 Len=0 TSval=237229731 TSecr=5237597
                                  66	29.452715	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	74	8443 → 36033 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=62643 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=237229756 TSecr=5237599 WS=128
                                  67	29.470799	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  68	29.470804	Cisco_f4:83:3a	Broadcast	ARP	60	Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.155
                                  69	29.478182	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	203	Server Hello, Change Cipher Spec, Encrypted Handshake Message
                                  70	29.505481	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=1101 Win=61696 Len=0 TSval=237229809 TSecr=5237604
                                  71	29.507689	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=2549 Win=60288 Len=0 TSval=237229811 TSecr=5237605
                                  72	29.507715	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=3997 Win=58880 Len=0 TSval=237229811 TSecr=5237605
                                  73	29.507948	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=138 Ack=4560 Win=58368 Len=0 TSval=237229812 TSecr=5237605
                                  74	29.511811	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	571	Application Data
                                  75	29.576321	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=643 Ack=5156 Win=57856 Len=0 TSval=237229880 TSecr=5237612
                                  76	29.577110	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	895	Application Data
                                  77	29.610470	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=1472 Ack=5808 Win=57216 Len=0 TSval=237229914 TSecr=5237615
                                  78	29.611045	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=1472 Ack=6921 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237229915 TSecr=5237615
                                  79	29.613017	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	1021	Application Data
                                  80	29.644515	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=2427 Ack=7572 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237229948 TSecr=5237618
                                  81	29.644790	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=2427 Ack=8126 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237229949 TSecr=5237619
                                  82	29.645791	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	771	Application Data
                                  83	30.341325	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=8779 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230645 TSecr=5237688
                                  84	30.345607	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=10227 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230649 TSecr=5237689
                                  85	30.345633	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=11675 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230649 TSecr=5237689
                                  86	30.345647	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=14571 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230649 TSecr=5237689
                                  87	30.345653	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=17467 Win=53760 Len=0 TSval=237230649 TSecr=5237689
                                  88	30.345914	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=18915 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230650 TSecr=5237689
                                  89	30.345926	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=21811 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230650 TSecr=5237689
                                  90	30.366516	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=24707 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230670 TSecr=5237691
                                  91	30.370821	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=26155 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230675 TSecr=5237691
                                  92	30.370833	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=30499 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230675 TSecr=5237691
                                  93	30.370877	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=33395 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230675 TSecr=5237691
                                  94	30.371050	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=34843 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230675 TSecr=5237691
                                  95	30.371064	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=36291 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230675 TSecr=5237691
                                  96	30.371882	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=37739 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230676 TSecr=5237691
                                  97	30.371894	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=39187 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230676 TSecr=5237691
                                  98	30.372797	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=3132 Ack=39527 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230677 TSecr=5237691
                                  99	30.376856	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TLSv1.2	1370	Application Data
                                  100	30.403991	52.60.181.28	172.31.17.42	TCP	66	8443 → 36033 [ACK] Seq=4436 Ack=40179 Win=56576 Len=0 TSval=237230708 TSecr=5237694
                                  

                                  Different messages, results much the same as before. ISP router no connection.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Might need to test it with something else then. Make sure you can send tagged traffic between the ports and capture it.

                                    You might need to use 'Dot1q-Tunnel' mode:
                                    https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/csbss/CBS220/Adminstration-Guide/cbs-220-admin-guide/vlan-management.html#ID-0000320b

                                    Since I can see nothing about port based VLANs there.

                                    Steve

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                                      jddoxtator @stephenw10
                                      last edited by jddoxtator

                                      @stephenw10 Ok, some mild progres. Enabeling Dot1q-Tunnel on the ports I was using allowed the ISP router to full connect. Problem is the only packets I am snooping on the Pfsense box are DNS, DHCP and ARP. Nothing with VLAN information.

                                      Edit: Fanstatic! I can now eliminate the SFP converter and directly connect the fiber to the switch with the Dot1q-Tunnel trick.

                                      Edit2: Routing at full speed on ISP router. We are making progress here. Now we just need to get Pfsense to do the same.

                                      Edit3: yep still capped at 20Mb/s on the Pfsense box.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ok, so you are still not seeing all the traffic to/from the ISP router?

                                        But you can see it using DHCP to pull an address in the correct subnet from upstream?

                                        That should show any special dhcp client options it's using.

                                        Steve

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                                          keyser Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 said in New Fiber install, fresh Pfsense install, only getting 20Mbps up/down:

                                          Ok, so you are still not seeing all the traffic to/from the ISP router?

                                          But you can see it using DHCP to pull an address in the correct subnet from upstream?

                                          That should show any special dhcp client options it's using.

                                          Steve

                                          Perhaps not true. If he is only seeing dhcp and other broadcasts, he’s either not capturing in promiscious mode, or he’s only seeing the broadcasts in the native VLAN which might be used for ISP management and has nothing to do with the user/internet VLAN

                                          Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                                            keyser Rebel Alliance @jddoxtator
                                            last edited by keyser

                                            @jddoxtator the major issue with using a managed switch is it will by default discard any VLAN tagged frames if that VLAN is not enabled in the switch. Thats why i suggested you used a dumb non managed switch. It makes it infinitely much easier to learn VLAN tags from as Long as you can see the broadcasts.

                                            You are likely capturing data on a port that has stripped unknown VLANs or forgot to capture i promiscious mode.
                                            If you are capturing on mvneta1 in the SG-2100, remember that is a uplink port to the internal 4 port switch. If dot1.q mode is enabled on that switch to create “discrete” interfaces, then the 2100 is the switch that is stripping unknown VLAN’s

                                            Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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