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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @darkcorner
    last edited by May 8, 2022, 4:32 PM

    @darkcorner what are you checking as your monitor - 80ms to your gateway seems very very high to your gateway.

    While really high latency could cause connection issues for some things. I wouldn't think that would be your issue if your saying it was always that high..

    What did you change that you saw such a drastic drop.. You changed to different isp?

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      darkcorner @johnpoz
      last edited by May 8, 2022, 4:57 PM

      @johnpoz
      As I said, this morning I moved pfSense from the office to my laboratory. Here is another line with another ISP.
      We have already changed two ISPs in the office, but evidently there is no efficient Internet in this area.
      Today we have FWA. We can reactivate an old 10Mb ADSL, giving up speed and cloud backups, but the line should be more stable. I hope, at least.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by May 8, 2022, 5:49 PM

        Mmm, 80ms is high if you are still monitoring the gateway IP. The gateway IP doesn't give you a good idea of actual connectivity though, try setting something external like 8.8.8.8 there.

        Peaks over 180ms on a 1 week average graph are also very high but wouldn't necessarily cause a connection to fail. But >20% packet loss will.

        Steve

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          darkcorner
          last edited by darkcorner May 9, 2022, 11:52 AM May 9, 2022, 11:50 AM

          @stephenw10 said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

          Peaks over 180ms on a 1 week average graph are also very high...

          There were peaks above 1800ms in the past month

          @johnpoz
          Today we had the total disruption of the FWA line provided by the main ISP.
          The second ISP provides a line over a telephone cable; with this we had DNS, but it was still impossible to navigate in Internet.

          In these conditions I can't even manage failover.

          Colleagues speak of a possible "bandwidth saturation", but we are talking about two ISPs on two different "media".

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @darkcorner
            last edited by May 9, 2022, 12:33 PM

            @darkcorner well look to traffic under monitor.

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              darkcorner @johnpoz
              last edited by May 10, 2022, 10:19 AM

              @johnpoz
              how do i know how many MB to download or upload per hour?
              I see Traffic or Packets, but they are values "per second".
              What do negative values correspond to?
              The ISP is telling me that it blocks my line for excessive traffic in an hour.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by May 10, 2022, 12:44 PM

                Try using the Traffic Totals package. That will show you, among other things, hourly usage.

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                Also consider getting a new ISP. 😉

                Steve

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @darkcorner
                  last edited by johnpoz May 10, 2022, 1:35 PM May 10, 2022, 1:34 PM

                  @darkcorner said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

                  how do i know how many MB to download or upload per hour?

                  That's not what you asked for - you asked if was saturated.. The package Steve mentioned would work for that. There is also bandwidthd, or ntop, etc.

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                    dennypage
                    last edited by May 14, 2022, 10:01 PM

                    This thread reminded me that I hadn't pushed out the Influx/Grafana stuff that I use for monitoring latency with dpinger.

                    It's really nothing fancy, but it works. I run the monitor on a host in the lan, measuring wan latency through the firewall. The scripts can be found here if you're interested.

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                      Sergei_Shablovsky @johnpoz
                      last edited by May 15, 2022, 12:15 AM

                      @johnpoz said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

                      @luckman212 not saying that is not an option. But if the retention of resolution for wan quality (latency packet loss to the gateway) of the data is a problem. Might be easier to just setup say smokeping.. Which could be as easy as docker deployment..

                      https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/smokeping

                      But if you just print out say the last weeks monitor graph for wan quality, it has a resolution of 1 hour.. Last 2 days 5 minutes, etc.

                      Around 1,5-2 years ago I create treads here on forum and on pfSense bug tracker about adding as third-party packages:

                      • Smokeping (primary for WANs monitoring);
                      • Telegraf + Grafana (modern system & links monitoring + modern alerting);
                      • zsh (as useful CLI extension);
                      • nano (as useful CLI file editor);

                      But like in case with “100-year old menu system from A to Z”, sticky to each other icons-buttons, and recommending vi as CLI editor, no button to easy locate port on back of device, ... no one care...

                      But users asking again and again the same questions, and have the same problems...

                      Looks like part of a system Devs (with all my respects to their work!) stick to the tools and UI of 70-80’ of past century ;) Sorry.

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by May 15, 2022, 3:36 AM

                        The East Editor (ee) is included by default, it does most of what you might use Nano for.

                        Steve

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                          Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                          last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky May 15, 2022, 7:14 AM May 15, 2022, 6:51 AM

                          @stephenw10 said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

                          The East Editor (ee) is included by default, it does most of what you might use Nano for.

                          Nano and Vim are 2 common well-known CLI editors for *nix. Vim are like improved version of vi editor. Both Nano and Vim support plugins.

                          But more importantly that Nano are modeless, this mean modern users receive WYSIWYG by using Nano. This is like pfSense: in ancient times monowall/pfSense born from needs to make same operations of FreeBSD/pf tuning more painless, errorfree, quickly and usable.

                          Similar about Zsh/Fish against ordinary bash CLI.

                          No one (excluding tech nerds) love to make everyday work complicated ;) Agree ?

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by May 15, 2022, 4:42 PM

                            Have you tried using Easy Editor? It's about as easy as it gets for editing a txt file.

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                              Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                              last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky May 15, 2022, 9:00 PM May 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

                              @stephenw10 said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

                              Have you tried using Easy Editor? It's about as easy as it gets for editing a txt file.

                              Ok, I try as You suggest.

                              But anyway, most of users prefer WYSIWYG, and plugins - are great and useful thing.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Sergei_Shablovsky
                                last edited by May 15, 2022, 9:42 PM

                                @sergei_shablovsky said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

                                most of users prefer WYSIWYG

                                I agree, that's why ee is included.

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                                  Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky May 25, 2022, 11:19 AM May 22, 2022, 8:00 AM

                                  @stephenw10 said in historical log for WAN latency and performance:

                                  Have you tried using Easy Editor? It's about as easy as it gets for editing a txt file.

                                  Nano are much better!

                                  In combination with zsh+ohmyzsh (+ Fish-like color code highlighting, code suggestions and multi-word search) - are perfect toolset. (7min step-by-step instruction how to quickly installing zsh, ohmyzsh + zsh-highlighting You may see here).
                                  Strongly recommend to try!
                                  If a You spend such amount of time in CLI, zsh make a You happy.

                                  Like ping comparing with Smokeping ;)

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