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    Upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, Limiters not passing

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      Destello
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      So, I am actually experiencing this problem on 2.6.0 with limiters, without Captive Portal enabled. We were using Captive Portal a week ago, but we just switched over to using just RADIUS MAC authentication. I actually upgraded to 2.6.0 in the middle of the migration (that was a really poor choice as now I can't revert) and had to disable Captive Portal earlier than anticipated. I had tried the Captive Portal patch while we were still using Captive Portal, but that caused so much lag that I instantly reverted and didn't have time to do any further testing. After finishing the migration, I tried setting up limiters and found that they couldn't work without the Captive Portal patch either. I installed the patch again, and I was able to limit the downstream bandwidth for individual users (for some reason I can't get upstream limiters to work, but that is probably just a poor configuration on my part). When I enable the limiters, I start dropping tons of packets as soon as the link comes under load from my host (even with a very small load like a video game).

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Check if ipfw is still active. Try running ipfw show at the command line.
        It should return an error. If if returns a list of ipfw rules then it's still active and Limiters cannot work correctly. If you have not rebooted since disabling the CP then do so.

        Steve

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          Destello @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10
          'ipfw show' returns an error:
          ipfw: retrieving config failed: Protocol not available
          And I have definitely rebooted since disabling Captive Portal. That was certainly a good suggestion, though, as I have 100 users and try to reboot as seldom as possible.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Hmm so how exactly do you have the Limiters configured?

            I've not been able to replicate any issues as long as ipfw is not enabled.

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              Destello @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10
              So, I did some more testing today and discovered that normal traffic over the limiters isn't causing any issues. It is actually only specific video games that are experiencing the issue. When I launch a multiplayer game of Heroes of the Storm with the limiters, my latency goes through the roof and I start dropping packets, but without the limiters, it works better, but with still some packet loss. However, I run a co-op vs AI game with the limiters enabled and I have no problems at all. I tried Overwatch, and a multiplayer game blows up my connection so badly that I get instantly disconnected, whether or not I have the limiters enabled. It looks like I am on the wrong thread, I apologize. I'll have to do some more research to figure out where I should actually be posting this. As of note, I didn't have this issue on 2.5.2 and I did the uPnP and latency spike patch at the same time as the captive portal patch. Sorry for not testing further earlier, Steve.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                No worries, thanks for confirming. 👍

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                  TheNarc @Destello
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                  @destello Apologies if I missed it somewhere but may I ask what the latency spike patch is? I'm running 2.6.0 CE, bare metal, no captive portal, and getting terrible latency spikes and packet loss on heavy parallel downloads even when I limit to 12% or less of my downstream cap. I'd heard of the captive portal issue but your mention here is the first I recall seeing with respect to a latency spike patch. Thanks!

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    This, in the System Patches package:

                    Screenshot from 2022-04-08 23-36-00.png

                    Steve

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                      nieblafog
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                      Bingo!! Disable Limiters was the solution for me.
                      Where limiters are actives the ping to google.com crush every time but ping 8.8.8.8 answer without problem; with limiters disable ping to google and 8.8.8.8 are ok

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Test a 2.7 or 22.05 snapshot if you can. Limiters + Captive Portal is fixed there.

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                          jamesmaxwifi @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Just to confirm, there is no System Patch to fix the Captive Portal/Limiter interaction on 22.01, the only option is to disable Captive Portal or upgrade to the Beta/Devel Branch of 22.05?

                          I couldn't see anything regarding this on the System Patches Package.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            That's correct, there is no run-time patch for the issue.
                            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12954

                            Steve

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