Windows server 2019, Hmail server and port 25
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Hello every one!
Has any body figured out how to make hMail server installation work in Windows server 2019 when your ISP is blocking port 25? I have installed hMail Server in windows server 2019 but I can't get it to work when my xfinity ISP is blocking all this ports for my mail server.When I run the diagnostic feature in hMail server every thing comes up green and my current set up only works for local environment...emails going out the network n coming in are not being received or sent.
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@rub75f figure out what exactly. If your isp blocks 25, you can not talk on 25 its that simple. To run a mail server for the public internet you need business connection that allows 25, and also allows you to set a PTR for your IP, or many servers won't even accept mail from you anyway on 25.
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@johnpoz yes I know this but don't want to go that route as the price will he 10x for the speed that I'm getting in my current package so I'm hoping some one can help me to make this work without going that route? Maybe a different port, forward port or a smtp re-relay server?
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@rub75f said in Windows server 2019, Hmail server and port 25:
Maybe a different port,
Sure get the whole internet to change what port their smtp servers listen on to receive mail ;)
The only way to get around your isp blocking 25 is via a vpn or different port used to send and receive via some other host on the internet that does not have 25 blocked.
There are plenty of services or ways to run a host on the actual public internet that does not have 25 blocked, and then just have it accept email for your domain(s) and send for them - while your actual server your clients talk to on your local network is local.
btw: even if you could send email directly out 25 from your connection, many a domain/email server would not even accept mail from you for couple of reasons, your coming from an IP range that is listed as dynamic or residential, or the PTR does not match the forward your email server is saying its name is when they talk. You need to be able to set or adjust the PTR for the IP your mail server is talking from, I am not aware of any such ISP on a home connection that allows you to do that.
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@rub75f Rent a vserver online. But it has nothing to do with pfSense...
Ok, technically you could install pfSense on a rented vserver and route via VPN connection email from and to your home. But if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't do it anyways.
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@rub75f The spam filter services I've seen (that we run for clients) allow specifying a port. So the MX could be the spam filter, and they relay to YourWAN:2000 or something.
Most ISPs also block port 25 outbound, and/or put the IP in the Spamhaus PBL as residential/not-a-mail-server. So you'll likely need an SMTP relay out as well.
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@johnpoz can you mentioned or suggests these services please? If I underntanding I would have to pay for these services right? I just wanted to run my own email server at home with so I wouldnt have to pay for email services or other Hosting outside my network.
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@rub75f said in Windows server 2019, Hmail server and port 25:
just wanted to run my own email server at home with so I wouldnt have to pay for email services or other Hosting outside my network.
Yeah you could do that 15 or so years ago - its pretty impossible to run your own email service today out some cheap home account.
You can thank the spammers for that.. Back in the day sure you could run an email server no problem, I had one running back in the day.. But it just became more and more difficult to do such a thing. I would never in a million years think of doing such a thing today..
Let the big boys run your email.. I do this for a living, ran exchange for a global enterprise for many years.. So not like I don't know how to do it - just not worth the hassle.. Companies rarely run their own email these days either.. Just easier to let the guys that do "email" do it.
Even if I had a business connection, I wouldn't even think of running my own email server today.
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@johnpoz said in Windows server 2019, Hmail server and port 25:
You can thank the spammers for that
And the commercial value of harvesting data from emails which has pushed the industry in that direction.
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@rub75f Inbound spam filter is a couple dollars per account. We do that and you can PM me your email if you want to discuss.
Outbound can be the same service for a bit more, but I think requires a static IP. Or use smtp2go or similar, or your own VM somewhere. Don’t know smtp2go cost. We do hosting but if you’re looking for low cost that’s not our thing.
Microsoft 365 email only (Exchange Online Plan 1) is $4.00 per mailbox per month annual, or 4.80 monthly.
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@johnpoz why is that? Isn't running your own email server and everything on-site more like a privacy benefit? Who knows what this guys do with your emails and stuff since every single one gets thru their servers!
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@steveits is the smtp2gp service also responsible for incoming emails?
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@rub75f I don’t think so.
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@rub75f said in Windows server 2019, Hmail server and port 25:
Who knows what this guys do with your emails and stuff since every single one gets thru their servers!
If that is your concern - then get a business line. As soon as you run through a smart host they have access to your email as well.. Do you trust them for $5 a month?
You deal with getting your IP blacklisted, or the spam filtering, etc. Having to be up 24/7, etc.
If your concerned on what is your email - then it should be encrypted anyway.. You worried about the mail man reading your postcards? Its not just the email service that can read your mail, every single device it crosses to get from A to B can read your email. Hosting your own email service does little in the way of people that can read your email ;) But it sure adds a lot of work and cost to your end. Did you add up how much it cost in electric to run that 2019 server? License cost? Windows 2019 isn't FREE ;) What about if you have a power outage, isp outage? Difference in being able to get to your email, vs having to be up to get the email whenever someone sends it, sure their servers will try and resend for a while.. But do you know their settings? How long will they wait, before they tell the sender could not deliver?
Clearly you have never tried to actually run a email server - have you thought about how exactly going to filter the 100x your normal email load worth of spam? ;) etc..
No thanks - they can read my spam, any sort of email would be worried about can be encrypted, etc.
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@johnpoz thanks for the advice. I'm not a pro that's why I'm asking for help to people that is actually doing it and tried to do it before. And also want to learn more about the process involved behind all these. Thanks again
