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    JollyCloudyCheergoose
    last edited by Jul 7, 2022, 5:07 AM

    When you do the initial pfSense wizard, on the WAN interface, it lets you spoof the MAC address. I have two questions about this:

    Whatever numbers and letters are entered in there, it says "invalid MAC address", even if it's really copied from another device. Should this error be ignored or what would be accepted?
    But it let me proceed with the "invalid MAC"

    How do you view what the current MAC is after the setup wizard is done. Because if you go under Interfaces->WAN, I don't see it. And if I go back to the wizard again, that page is empty.

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Jul 7, 2022, 11:22 AM

      You can see an entered MAC in Interfaces > WAN. It will allow you to enter a MAC there to spoof to if you need it.

      Steve

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        Jarhead @JollyCloudyCheergoose
        last edited by Jul 7, 2022, 1:01 PM

        @jollycloudycheergoose If it says "invalid", you might be entering it wrong.
        Make sure you follow this:

        Enter a MAC address in the following format: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx or leave blank.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Jul 7, 2022, 1:30 PM

          Mmm, I can't replicate that in 22.01 or 22.05 with a valid MAC: 00:11:22:33:44:55

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            JollyCloudyCheergoose @stephenw10
            last edited by Jul 8, 2022, 4:22 AM

            @stephenw10 Hey when I go to that
            Interfaces >> WAN

            I don't see MAC address listed. It does have it under the Wizard setup though, but I'm not sure if doing it via there messes up my previous other settings

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Jul 8, 2022, 12:02 PM

              You don't see this?

              login-to-view

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                JollyCloudyCheergoose @stephenw10
                last edited by Jul 8, 2022, 10:32 PM

                @stephenw10 That is correct, I do NOT see that. On WAN below IPv6 is MTU and MSS.

                Then it goes right into the next section, WITHOUT a MAC address line.

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Jul 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

                  What is your WAN interface? If it's a subinterface type, like a VLAN, you need to spoof the MAC on the parent NIC.

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                    JollyCloudyCheergoose @stephenw10
                    last edited by Jul 10, 2022, 8:37 AM

                    @stephenw10 WAN is a PPoE connection to ISP Modem

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

                      Right, then you need to assign/enable the parent interface and spoof the MAC there. You don't have to set an IP on the parent though, you leave it set to 'none'.

                      Steve

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                        JollyCloudyCheergoose @stephenw10
                        last edited by Jul 11, 2022, 4:53 AM

                        @stephenw10 Do you know where I can find documentation on how to do this?

                        If I'm using the pfSense firewall now, does that mean that my ISP already saw my real MAC address and whatever spoof I did in the Setup Wizard failed?

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Jul 11, 2022, 11:41 AM

                          I'm not sure that's detailed anywhere specifically. But it is simple as assigning and enabling the parent interface and setting a MAC there.
                          The ISP would be able to see the parent interface MAC address if they are looking for it. But since it's a PPPoE connection they probably don't care.

                          Steve

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                            JollyCloudyCheergoose @stephenw10
                            last edited by Jul 12, 2022, 12:34 AM

                            @stephenw10 I am really struggling to even find the parent interface tab on the pfSense GUI or netgate documentation.

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                              Jarhead @JollyCloudyCheergoose
                              last edited by Jul 12, 2022, 1:17 AM

                              @jollycloudycheergoose Go to interfaces/assignments.
                              On the bottom there's a drop down with any available interfaces. Find yours, then click add.

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                                JollyCloudyCheergoose @Jarhead
                                last edited by Jul 12, 2022, 1:36 AM

                                @jarhead Yes there's the interfaces in the list that I have currently. And I can add one of the other igb ports. If I add this port it is the "parent"? I am confused by the parent concept

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                                  Jarhead @JollyCloudyCheergoose
                                  last edited by Jul 12, 2022, 2:00 AM

                                  @jollycloudycheergoose Post a screenshot of your WAN settings and your interface assignments page.

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                                    JollyCloudyCheergoose @Jarhead
                                    last edited by Jul 12, 2022, 2:22 AM

                                    @jarhead login-to-view login-to-view

                                    For security purposes, login credentials/passwords are redacted. Thank-you

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                                      Jarhead @JollyCloudyCheergoose
                                      last edited by Jarhead Jul 12, 2022, 10:12 AM Jul 12, 2022, 10:11 AM

                                      @jollycloudycheergoose Click the green Add button. Then reread the previous instructions above.

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Jul 12, 2022, 12:05 PM

                                        To be clear the pppoe0 interface is running on igb0 as shown. So assign and enable igb0 and set the MAC there.

                                        Steve

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                                          JollyCloudyCheergoose @stephenw10
                                          last edited by JollyCloudyCheergoose Jul 13, 2022, 5:20 AM Jul 13, 2022, 5:08 AM

                                          @stephenw10 On this second “Parent“ Interface, I set the IPv4 Configuration to None or DHCP?

                                          I tried using a second router I control as a fake ISP just to test it, by plugging the pfSense’s WAN into my test router.

                                          If the pfSense parent interface is set to DHCP, then it shows up on my test router with the correct MAC! But then the internet doesn’t work when plugged into the Real PpoE ISP.

                                          But if I do the pfSense Parent set to None, then it doesn’t show up on my test router. So how do I know if the PpoE ISP is seeing my bullshit MAC?

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