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    22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue

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      tman222
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      I'm curious if you guys had any idea on how to troubleshoot this further? The only thing I have not tried yet is creating a brand new OpenVPN server (tunnel) from scratch to see if that resolves the data flow issues. @swixo and @maverick_slo - have you guys tried this yet? Thanks in advance.

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        swixo @tman222
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        @tman222 I have not tried deleting the tunnel and starting over - although I may create a new one and see if it is ok.

        We have a bug in either case and I want to preserve the failure condition so I can verify a proper fix if offered.

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          swixo @swixo
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          @swixo This issue has been reliably reproduced (and still failing) on 22.05-RELEASE (amd64).

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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            There must be something different about your setup. I still can't reproduce a problem here. I have three clients connected (pfSense, Windows, and OSX) and they all have working connectivity across the VPN.

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              swixo @jimp
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              @jimp I must have a setting aggravating it - user tman seems to have same issue.
              Just in case - here are my settings:

              DCO=on
              Mode: TUN
              Proto: UDP/v4
              interface: Any 
              Use Tls Key: Checked
              TLS Usage: Enc and Auth
              TLS KeyDir: Both
              No Cert Rev List
              No OCSP Check
              DH: 4096
              ECDH: secp384r1
              Algorithms: AES-256-GCM
              Fallback: AES-256-GCM
              Auth Digest: SHA256 (256)
              HW Crypto: Intel RDRAND
              Cert Depth (Client+Server)
              Client Certificate Key Usage: Enforce Checked
              Tunnel Network /24
              no IPV6
              Redirect: Force all IPv4 Thru tunnel: Checked
              No Redirect IPv6 checked
              Concurrent connections: blank
              Compression: Refuse non stub
              Inter Client Comm: Checked
              Duplicate Conn: Checked
              Dup Conn Limit: Blank
              Client Dynamic IP: Checked
              Topology: One IP address per client common subnet
              Ping: Inactive: 0
              Method: Keepalive
              interval: 10
              Timeout: 60
              DNS Default Domain: Checked
              DNS Server Enable: Checked
              Block Outside DNS: Unchecked
              Force DNS Update: Unchecked
              NTP Server: Checked
              Custom Options: push "route 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.0"
              UDP Fast I/O: Unchecked
              Exit Notify: Disabled
              Send/Receive Buffer: Default
              Gateway Creation ipv4 only
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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                I'm using RA SSL/TLS but that shouldn't matter.

                TLS Usage: Enc and Auth

                Mine: Auth only

                TLS KeyDir: Both

                Mine: Default

                DH: 4096

                Mine: 2048

                ECDH: secp384r1

                Mine: Default

                HW Crypto: Intel RDRAND

                Set that to "No", you aren't going to gain anything from that one, especailly with DCO.

                Redirect: Force all IPv4 Thru tunnel: Checked

                I don't have this set but it's probably not going to change anything.

                Inter Client Comm: Checked

                Mine: Unchecked

                Duplicate Conn: Checked

                Mine: Unchecked (each client has a unique cert)

                Client Dynamic IP: Checked

                Mine: Unchecked

                DNS Default Domain: Checked

                Mine: Unchecked

                DNS Server Enable: Checked

                Mine: Unchecked

                NTP Server: Checked

                Mine: Unchecked

                Custom Options: push "route 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.0"

                Mine: Blank (but that one route alone should be fine)

                A lot of those, like the pushed DNS options, shouldn't make a difference. I'd focus on trying to change one thing at a time to see if it helps and if it doesn't, change it back and try the next one. That way you can isolate the potential problem there.

                I'd try changing TLS auth first to auth only, I'm not sure if anyone has tried TLS enc+auth with DCO yet.

                Also you listed several options that should be hidden when you have DCO on (like inactive and UDP fast i/o), are those really showing in your GUI with DCO checked or did you transcribe those from somewhere else?

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                  swixo @jimp
                  last edited by

                  @jimp said in 22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue:

                  HW Crypto: Intel RDRAND

                  Set that to "No", you aren't going to gain anything from that one, especailly with DCO.

                  I'd try changing TLS auth first to auth only, I'm not sure if anyone has tried TLS enc+auth with DCO yet.

                  Also you listed several options that should be hidden when you have DCO on (like inactive and UDP fast i/o), are those really showing in your GUI with DCO checked or did you transcribe those from somewhere else?

                  My bad on that - I had flipped DCO off just to get the VPN going again and hadn't thought the UX would change the options.

                  I will test the changes you suggest and report.

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                    swixo @swixo
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                    @swixo Tried a bunch of these changes and made things worse.

                    Intel Hardware accel had no effect. But the Key Dir and Auth Only/Auth+Encry setting made a lot of difference. Had to export new profiles after every change to make sure clients were in sync.

                    Most of the time - I couldn't connect at all - or data never flowed, until turning DCO off - then it usually worked fine after that.

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                    • JeGrJ
                      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @jimp
                      last edited by

                      @jimp Just to chime in:

                      we were rolling out 2 new boxes 6100/4100 to a customer and I set up OpenVPN RAS pretty default with new DCO setting.

                      Exactly same problem: .2 client can connect and route/transfer data, all other client IPs don't get ANY data at all sent through the connection. Switching off DCO immediatly works again. No spiffy or special stuff configured, just plain dead simple RAS setup with a single LAN network that gets pushed to the clients.

                      Clients are 2x windows boxes with win10, newest OVPN Client 2.5.9/x64 and have no problems whatsoever. Routes are just fine, traffic simply refuses to flow through the server if you're not client #.2 :)

                      System is on 22.05 stable

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, were those supplied with 22.05 or upgraded from 22.01?

                        Does that include traffic between IPs in the tunnel subnet directly?

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                        • JeGrJ
                          JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Those were freshly installed with 22.01 and clean upgraded to 22.05 - at least there were no errors or other hiccups in the logs or anywhere to see.

                          Besides that it's a simple straightforward RAS style setup:

                          • SSL/TLS + User Auth
                          • DCO
                          • tun L3
                          • UDP/1194
                          • TLS Key with TLS Auth (not auth+enc), default direction
                          • VPN CA, VPN Cert, VPN CRL created
                          • ECDH only
                          • prime256v1
                          • SHA256
                          • no HW crypt (but AES-NI enabled kernel module)
                          • cert depth 1 (C+S)
                          • Strict User-CN Matching
                          • Enforce Key usage
                          • IP4 tunnel network 192.168.45.0/26 (to leave space to add another VPNs server later with .45.64/26, .45.128/26, etc.)
                          • IP4 local network 192.168.40.0/24 (LAN)
                          • compression: refuse any non stub (most secure)
                          • dynamic IP selected
                          • subnet
                          • keepalive 5 30
                          • DNS default domain set up to the locally used domain
                          • DNS server set up to the local MS AD server
                          • Gateway v4 only
                          • Verb 3

                          nothing else set. The RAS clients aren't supposed to talk with each other so no, inter-client comm isn't a thing here :)

                          Cheers
                          \jens

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            I mean can clients other than .2 ping the server tunnel IP?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              I've been unable to replicate this so far. Did you test disabling AES-NI?

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                              • JeGrJ
                                JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 said in 22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue:

                                I mean can clients other than .2 ping the server tunnel IP?

                                Ah that's what you meant! I just switched DCO back on and tested for you:

                                • VPN net: 192.168.45.0/24
                                • LAN net: 192.168.40.0/24

                                When DCO is on:

                                • Client 1 connected as .45.2:

                                  • ping to .45.1 (VPN GW) -> works
                                  • ping to 40.1 (FW IP in LAN) -> works
                                  • ping to 40.x (any other IP then Firewall) -> works
                                  • can connect to e.g. Server on 192.168.40.10
                                • Client 2 connected as .45.3:

                                  • ping to .45.1 (VPN GW) -> works
                                  • ping to 40.1 (FW IP in LAN) -> works
                                  • ping to 40.x (any other IP then Firewall) -> DOESN'T work
                                  • no connect to any other device on the LAN is working

                                As there are IPsec tunnels currently in use I couldn't disable crypto but it is set to QAT - not AES-NI - as it's a 6100 :)

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Ah, OK I was testing to the LAN IP. Retesting....

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ok, replicated it. Let me see if I can narrow it down....

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                                      swixo @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 Whew! Glad this was tracked down.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        OK, this looks like an internal routing issue. As a workaround applying outbound NAT to traffic leaving the LAN appears to allow it to route replies as expected. If you want to test DCO that is.

                                        Steve

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                                        • JeGrJ
                                          JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 Would that be subject to a patch via "System Patches" or is the routing issue deeper than the patch system can go and requires a new build/version of some files? Just asking if that'd be hotfix'able.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            It's probably not something that can be fixed with a run-time patch unfortunately. It looks to be in OpenVPN so something in the binary.

                                            Steve

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