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    22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue

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      swixo @swixo
      last edited by

      @swixo This issue has been reliably reproduced (and still failing) on 22.05-RELEASE (amd64).

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      • jimpJ
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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        There must be something different about your setup. I still can't reproduce a problem here. I have three clients connected (pfSense, Windows, and OSX) and they all have working connectivity across the VPN.

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          swixo @jimp
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          @jimp I must have a setting aggravating it - user tman seems to have same issue.
          Just in case - here are my settings:

          DCO=on
          Mode: TUN
          Proto: UDP/v4
          interface: Any 
          Use Tls Key: Checked
          TLS Usage: Enc and Auth
          TLS KeyDir: Both
          No Cert Rev List
          No OCSP Check
          DH: 4096
          ECDH: secp384r1
          Algorithms: AES-256-GCM
          Fallback: AES-256-GCM
          Auth Digest: SHA256 (256)
          HW Crypto: Intel RDRAND
          Cert Depth (Client+Server)
          Client Certificate Key Usage: Enforce Checked
          Tunnel Network /24
          no IPV6
          Redirect: Force all IPv4 Thru tunnel: Checked
          No Redirect IPv6 checked
          Concurrent connections: blank
          Compression: Refuse non stub
          Inter Client Comm: Checked
          Duplicate Conn: Checked
          Dup Conn Limit: Blank
          Client Dynamic IP: Checked
          Topology: One IP address per client common subnet
          Ping: Inactive: 0
          Method: Keepalive
          interval: 10
          Timeout: 60
          DNS Default Domain: Checked
          DNS Server Enable: Checked
          Block Outside DNS: Unchecked
          Force DNS Update: Unchecked
          NTP Server: Checked
          Custom Options: push "route 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.0"
          UDP Fast I/O: Unchecked
          Exit Notify: Disabled
          Send/Receive Buffer: Default
          Gateway Creation ipv4 only
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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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            I'm using RA SSL/TLS but that shouldn't matter.

            TLS Usage: Enc and Auth

            Mine: Auth only

            TLS KeyDir: Both

            Mine: Default

            DH: 4096

            Mine: 2048

            ECDH: secp384r1

            Mine: Default

            HW Crypto: Intel RDRAND

            Set that to "No", you aren't going to gain anything from that one, especailly with DCO.

            Redirect: Force all IPv4 Thru tunnel: Checked

            I don't have this set but it's probably not going to change anything.

            Inter Client Comm: Checked

            Mine: Unchecked

            Duplicate Conn: Checked

            Mine: Unchecked (each client has a unique cert)

            Client Dynamic IP: Checked

            Mine: Unchecked

            DNS Default Domain: Checked

            Mine: Unchecked

            DNS Server Enable: Checked

            Mine: Unchecked

            NTP Server: Checked

            Mine: Unchecked

            Custom Options: push "route 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.0"

            Mine: Blank (but that one route alone should be fine)

            A lot of those, like the pushed DNS options, shouldn't make a difference. I'd focus on trying to change one thing at a time to see if it helps and if it doesn't, change it back and try the next one. That way you can isolate the potential problem there.

            I'd try changing TLS auth first to auth only, I'm not sure if anyone has tried TLS enc+auth with DCO yet.

            Also you listed several options that should be hidden when you have DCO on (like inactive and UDP fast i/o), are those really showing in your GUI with DCO checked or did you transcribe those from somewhere else?

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              swixo @jimp
              last edited by

              @jimp said in 22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue:

              HW Crypto: Intel RDRAND

              Set that to "No", you aren't going to gain anything from that one, especailly with DCO.

              I'd try changing TLS auth first to auth only, I'm not sure if anyone has tried TLS enc+auth with DCO yet.

              Also you listed several options that should be hidden when you have DCO on (like inactive and UDP fast i/o), are those really showing in your GUI with DCO checked or did you transcribe those from somewhere else?

              My bad on that - I had flipped DCO off just to get the VPN going again and hadn't thought the UX would change the options.

              I will test the changes you suggest and report.

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                swixo @swixo
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                @swixo Tried a bunch of these changes and made things worse.

                Intel Hardware accel had no effect. But the Key Dir and Auth Only/Auth+Encry setting made a lot of difference. Had to export new profiles after every change to make sure clients were in sync.

                Most of the time - I couldn't connect at all - or data never flowed, until turning DCO off - then it usually worked fine after that.

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                • JeGrJ
                  JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @jimp
                  last edited by

                  @jimp Just to chime in:

                  we were rolling out 2 new boxes 6100/4100 to a customer and I set up OpenVPN RAS pretty default with new DCO setting.

                  Exactly same problem: .2 client can connect and route/transfer data, all other client IPs don't get ANY data at all sent through the connection. Switching off DCO immediatly works again. No spiffy or special stuff configured, just plain dead simple RAS setup with a single LAN network that gets pushed to the clients.

                  Clients are 2x windows boxes with win10, newest OVPN Client 2.5.9/x64 and have no problems whatsoever. Routes are just fine, traffic simply refuses to flow through the server if you're not client #.2 :)

                  System is on 22.05 stable

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                  \jens

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, were those supplied with 22.05 or upgraded from 22.01?

                    Does that include traffic between IPs in the tunnel subnet directly?

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                    • JeGrJ
                      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 Those were freshly installed with 22.01 and clean upgraded to 22.05 - at least there were no errors or other hiccups in the logs or anywhere to see.

                      Besides that it's a simple straightforward RAS style setup:

                      • SSL/TLS + User Auth
                      • DCO
                      • tun L3
                      • UDP/1194
                      • TLS Key with TLS Auth (not auth+enc), default direction
                      • VPN CA, VPN Cert, VPN CRL created
                      • ECDH only
                      • prime256v1
                      • SHA256
                      • no HW crypt (but AES-NI enabled kernel module)
                      • cert depth 1 (C+S)
                      • Strict User-CN Matching
                      • Enforce Key usage
                      • IP4 tunnel network 192.168.45.0/26 (to leave space to add another VPNs server later with .45.64/26, .45.128/26, etc.)
                      • IP4 local network 192.168.40.0/24 (LAN)
                      • compression: refuse any non stub (most secure)
                      • dynamic IP selected
                      • subnet
                      • keepalive 5 30
                      • DNS default domain set up to the locally used domain
                      • DNS server set up to the local MS AD server
                      • Gateway v4 only
                      • Verb 3

                      nothing else set. The RAS clients aren't supposed to talk with each other so no, inter-client comm isn't a thing here :)

                      Cheers
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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        I mean can clients other than .2 ping the server tunnel IP?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          I've been unable to replicate this so far. Did you test disabling AES-NI?

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                          • JeGrJ
                            JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 said in 22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue:

                            I mean can clients other than .2 ping the server tunnel IP?

                            Ah that's what you meant! I just switched DCO back on and tested for you:

                            • VPN net: 192.168.45.0/24
                            • LAN net: 192.168.40.0/24

                            When DCO is on:

                            • Client 1 connected as .45.2:

                              • ping to .45.1 (VPN GW) -> works
                              • ping to 40.1 (FW IP in LAN) -> works
                              • ping to 40.x (any other IP then Firewall) -> works
                              • can connect to e.g. Server on 192.168.40.10
                            • Client 2 connected as .45.3:

                              • ping to .45.1 (VPN GW) -> works
                              • ping to 40.1 (FW IP in LAN) -> works
                              • ping to 40.x (any other IP then Firewall) -> DOESN'T work
                              • no connect to any other device on the LAN is working

                            As there are IPsec tunnels currently in use I couldn't disable crypto but it is set to QAT - not AES-NI - as it's a 6100 :)

                            Cheers

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Ah, OK I was testing to the LAN IP. Retesting....

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Ok, replicated it. Let me see if I can narrow it down....

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                                  swixo @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 Whew! Glad this was tracked down.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    OK, this looks like an internal routing issue. As a workaround applying outbound NAT to traffic leaving the LAN appears to allow it to route replies as expected. If you want to test DCO that is.

                                    Steve

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                                    • JeGrJ
                                      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 Would that be subject to a patch via "System Patches" or is the routing issue deeper than the patch system can go and requires a new build/version of some files? Just asking if that'd be hotfix'able.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        It's probably not something that can be fixed with a run-time patch unfortunately. It looks to be in OpenVPN so something in the binary.

                                        Steve

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                                        • JeGrJ
                                          JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 said in 22.05 - DCO and OpenVPN issue:

                                          It's probably not something that can be fixed with a run-time patch unfortunately. It looks to be in OpenVPN so something in the binary.

                                          Steve

                                          Thanks for clarifying - thus we know to currently not roll it out enabled per default :)

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