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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @JKnott
      last edited by

      @jknott said in USB GPS receiver:

      Is there another one?

      Nope. You will see the link to Google maps there when it see a valid NMEA signal.

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      • JKnottJ
        JKnott @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10

        It looks like I may be out of luck. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

        I have a GPS test app on my cell phone. Inside my condo, it occasionally shows 1 or 2 satellites. When I step outside, I have 24 in view.

        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
        UniFi AC-Lite access point

        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Mmm, well that won't help!

          First troubleshooting step though is disable it in ntp and just connect to it from the command line. Make sure it's outputting _something _ at the baud rate you expect.

          Steve

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @stephenw10
            last edited by JKnott

            @stephenw10

            I hooked it up to my Linux computer and used minicom @ 4800 b/s and get this:

            $GPRMC,000103.044,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N43
            $GPGGA,000104.056,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            50
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000104.056,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            47
            $GPGGA,000105.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,000053
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000105.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            44
            $GPGGA,000106.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            50
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000106.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            47
            $GPGGA,000107.056,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,000053
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000107.056,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            44
            $GPGGA,000108.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            5E
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000108.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            49
            $GPGGA,000109.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,00005F
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000109.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            48
            $GPGGA,000110.057,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            54
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000110.057,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            43
            $GPGGA,000111.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,000056
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000111.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            41
            $GPGGA,000112.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            55
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000112.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            42
            $GPGGA,000113.057,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,000057
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000113.057,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            40
            $GPGGA,000114.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            53
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000114.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            44
            $GPGGA,000115.045,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,000052
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1E
            $GPRMC,000115.045,V,,,,,,,110905,,,N
            45
            $GPGGA,000116.057,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000
            52
            $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*1E

            I suspect it's working or at least would if I had a decent signal. PfSense saw it, when I selected the right com port.

            According to that GPS test app, I have a decent signal at the other end of my condo, but that's quite a way from my "office".

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Yup, it's sending NMEA sentences at the expected baud rate. Just no data, presumably because there's no signal. ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                bmcgover @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10

                it occasionally shows 1 or 2 satellites. When I step outside, I have 24 in view.

                You need at least three for rough location data. I'm guessing the timing signal will come with the location sentence (its been awhile since I've done NEMA stuff).

                With 4, you'll start to get error correction, and each subsequent satellite with make it "better".

                An external antenna (as big as possible if you're indoors, better will be something you can put outside) will help here if the device supports it. If it doesn't have an external antenna, you may have to arrange for the device to be outside for good reception. I have a little USB one myself, and it works best when the magnet has it attached to the top of the truck - not so good even when its in the truck.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, I used a USB extension cable to get the receiver out the window. Works fine there, for what it is (no PPS).

                  Steve

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @bmcgover
                    last edited by

                    @bmcgover

                    The problem here is the building my condo is in. Outside my window is a walkway connecting the units and then stairs beyond that. So, even when I'm right next to the window, I'm still quite a way from "outside". At the other end of my unit, the window really is next to outside and I can get satellites there. I've long had RF problems here, whether it's cell phones or broadcast radio. I use Wifi calling on my cell phone for that reason.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10

                      For me, I'd have to use an extension through the wall and over a walkway, before I can get a decent signal.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                        bmcgover @JKnott
                        last edited by

                        @jknott
                        Yup. "Clear view of the sky" is a general GPS requirement for both signal strength AND being able to see enough satellites. The signals aren't overly strong to start with, and once you do start any penetration with a density higher than "sea level air", you'll start to pick up distortions pretty quickly.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @bmcgover
                          last edited by

                          @bmcgover said in USB GPS receiver:

                          The signals aren't overly strong to start with

                          That is a massive understatement. ๐Ÿ˜‰ When you look into GPS you find it requires some engineering blackmagic to detect the signals at all even in the best conditions. Something everyone takes for granted these days.

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