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    • bingo600B
      bingo600 @SudsMaker
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      @sudsmaker said in Inexpensive device for pfSense:

      Something with low maintenance and electricity consumption. (no fans would be nice)
      Can handle 1GB+ speeds
      3-4 ports (more is fine)
      $100-$150

      Please let me know too, when you find a device w. those specs, at that price. šŸ¤“

      /Bingo

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        Jarhead @bingo600
        last edited by Jarhead

        @bingo600 How about the sg1100?
        A little over the price but I think it fits all the rest

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @Jarhead
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          @jarhead The 1100 isn't going to be able to do 1 Gbps. Netgate (https://www.netgate.com/pfsense-plus-software/how-to-buy#appliances) puts it at 191-607 Mbps with the firewall enabled. The 4100 can do 1 Gbps. I'm pretty sure OP is looking for a unicorn. :) Probably requires used hardware.

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            akuma1x @Jarhead
            last edited by akuma1x

            @jarhead You need to add a little bit more to your budget, then look at this box:

            https://www.amazon.com/QOTOM-celeron-Processor-Fanless-pfSense/dp/B01CSCGD58/

            Only problem is that the CPU does not support AES-NI in that model. Also might not be able to hit 1Gb speeds. You have to get into one of the newer Celeron processors for that AES-NI function, and still up your budget.

            This would be a better box, with a newer CPU:

            https://www.amazon.com/Qotom-Fanless-Celeron-Computer-Firewall/dp/B09ZXY1KJ3

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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              @bingo600 said in Inexpensive device for pfSense:

              Can handle 1GB+ speeds
              3-4 ports (more is fine)
              $100-$150

              Curious where users come up with their price points..

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                sledge
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                That’s a tough ask for that budget. Have a peek at this thread as I think doing a DIY box with used equipment is your best shot of getting close to budget and desired speed.

                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/173687/upgrading-my-apu2c4-pfsense-box/2

                Another thought is maybe you could repurpose an older server unit from your work for cheap or free.

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                • bingo600B
                  bingo600 @sledge
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                  @sledge said in Inexpensive device for pfSense:

                  Another thought is maybe you could repurpose an older server unit from your work for cheap or free.

                  That would probably not fulfill requirement 1

                  Something with low maintenance and electricity consumption. (no fans would be nice)

                  /Bingo

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                    sledge @bingo600
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                    @bingo600 said in Inexpensive device for pfSense:

                    @sledge said in Inexpensive device for pfSense:

                    Another thought is maybe you could repurpose an older server unit from your work for cheap or free.

                    That would probably not fulfill requirement 1

                    Something with low maintenance and electricity consumption. (no fans would be nice)

                    /Bingo

                    Depends how you view things. If he gets it for free then his $100-150 budget can buy him some play time.

                    100w / 1,000 = 0.10 KWH x 24 hours x 30 days x $0.103 per KWH = $7.42 per month

                    Adjust wattage variable as needed for actual power consumption. Cost per kWh is based on my last electric bill. It may vary for your location.

                    Even if 200w that’s roughly $15/mo so he gets 10 months of play time for that budget. And that’s without discounting back any watts/cost for whatever he’s already using and paying.

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                    • bingo600B
                      bingo600 @sledge
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                      @sledge
                      If he's in Europe you're soooo much off
                      In peak times here we pay like us$ 0.90/KWh

                      Rus/Ukr war made energy crazy .....

                      Else ...
                      Did you just say that because you don't care about goloabl warming or ?? ....

                      /Bingo

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                        sledge @bingo600
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                        @bingo600 said in Inexpensive device for pfSense:

                        @sledge
                        If he's in Europe you're soooo much off
                        In peak times here we pay like us$ 0.90/KWh

                        Rus/Ukr war made energy crazy .....

                        Else ...
                        Did you just say that because you don't care about goloabl warming or ?? ....

                        /Bingo

                        No hidden agenda in my statement. And I wasn’t intentionally being insensitive to global issues. The OP listed his/her budget using the USD $ symbol so I was responding with what I thought was appropriate. Being that I’m US based it seemed that was a fairly decent representation of his/her costs to operate.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          100W actual average consumption would be very high though. Something in the 30-50W range is not hard in a used device. Won't be fanless though.
                          I agree, It's hard to meet all of those requirements.

                          Steve

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                              ranger2
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                              I just got my pfSense running with the following hardware....

                              HP Prodesk 6200 i3-2100 with 8 gb RAM (came with an HDD I didn't use): $50 second hand from a private seller. (Just the box, no peripherals)
                              Two, TP-Link TG-3468 NICs (one for LAN and one for OPT); ~$12/ea from Amazon.
                              One, Silicone Power 128 gb SSD: ~$17 from Amazon.

                              I used a keyboard and monitor I had to get it set up, but now it's freestanding.

                              I don't know how many VLANs you're talking about, but I run a LAN for security and the OPT interface is for multiple Static IPs from Google Fiber. I have it attached to a Netgear Gigabit 8-port switch I got off Amazon for ~$19

                              The built-in NIC on the HP Prodesk provides the WAN. I get full speed 1 GBs through the Fiber Jack.

                              So, outside of my time I spent a total of about ~$125 and it seems to work just fine.

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