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    Strange error: There were error(s) loading the rules: pfctl: pfctl_rules

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    • artooroA
      artooro @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 thanks, what I'll attempt tomorrow is to edit https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/blob/60a2fa6b6f1a59f3f86933265fbb48e25f652bfc/src/etc/inc/filter.inc#L527 to use truss and output to a log file, and see if we can get something helpful there.
      As I have a couple of systems where it's pretty easy to reproduce.

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        Flole @artooro
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        @artooro I'd make a copy of every rules-file that's loaded there aswell. Just to see if loading those files in the same order causes the issue.

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          Flole @Flole
          last edited by Flole

          After some reboots it started working again for me aswell. I noticed that my GIF tunnels did not come up this time. Maybe it is related? Are others affected by this also using (multiple) GIF tunnels?

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            ChrisJenk @Flole
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            @flole said in Strange error: There were error(s) loading the rules: pfctl: pfctl_rules:

            After some reboots it started working again for me aswell. I noticed that my GIF tunnels did not come up this time. Maybe it is related? Are others affected by this also using (multiple) GIF tunnels?

            I have a single GIF tunnel (a 6in4 for HE Tunnelbroker).

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Hmm, that could be a clue. Though I haven't seen it on any test box I have that has GIF tunnels.So maybe something else required on that specifically.

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              • artooroA
                artooro
                last edited by artooro

                I've been able to capture the initial pfctl that fails via truss which I've attached here:
                1-truss_pfctl_1660664796.txt

                I don't have any GIF tunnels, but do use WireGuard interfaces.

                And if anyone is interested in capturing this themselves, what I did is edit /etc/src/filter.inc and commented out line 527 and added the following quick and dirty code:

                		$_grbg = exec("/usr/bin/truss /sbin/pfctl -o basic -f {$g['tmp_path']}/rules.debug 2>&1", $rules_error, $rules_loading);
                		$rval = 0;
                		if ($rules_error[count($rules_error)-1] == "process exit, rval = 1") {
                			$rval = 1;
                			file_notice("filter_load", sprintf("pfctl process exit, rval = 1"), "Filter Reload", "");
                		}
                		$date = new DateTime();
                		$truss_filename = "/root/" . $rval . "-truss_pfctl_" . $date->getTimestamp() . ".txt";
                		file_put_contents($truss_filename, implode("\n", $rules_error));
                
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                  Flole @artooro
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                  @artooro Maybe you should post the one that ran right before it aswell, just in case something there was already messed up. But it looks promising to me, I believe @kprovost is the pfctl and Kernel expert, maybe he can spot a potential bug based on that truss-output?

                  Keep in mind that if you're using the captive portal pfctl is invoked at (at least) one other location aswell.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Yup I pinged him. Late where he is though, I hope he's enjoying a beer by now. 😉

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                    • artooroA
                      artooro @Flole
                      last edited by

                      @flole I checked and the previous run is the same as all the successful invocations.

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                        kprovost @artooro
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                        @artooro Can you add an pfctl -x loud invocation before that truss'd pfctl?

                        That truss output was already more illuminating, but I'm still not able to reproduce anything like this issue.

                        It seems to fail with ioctl(3,DIOCADDRULENV,0xbfbfdae4) ERR#16 'Device busy', after it's already added a bunch of other rules without issue.
                        EBUSY almost certainly means we've failed in pf_ioctl_addrule(), when checking ticket numbers.

                        So I'm guessing we're seeing a race condition here, where something else (possibly another pfctl, possibly something else that adds rules or addresses) is running at the same time. The pfctl -x loud should let us work out if it's a ruleset or a pool ticket. That in turn might give us a hint.

                        I've seen mention of pfBlockerNG, is everyone affected running that?

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                          ChrisJenk @kprovost
                          last edited by ChrisJenk

                          @kprovost said in Strange error: There were error(s) loading the rules: pfctl: pfctl_rules:

                          I've seen mention of pfBlockerNG, is everyone affected running that?

                          I'm not even sure what pfBlockerNG is. I'm not consciously running it (unless it is something that always runs as standard).

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            It's a package. You have to actively install it.

                            Steve

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                            • artooroA
                              artooro @kprovost
                              last edited by artooro

                              Sure I've added pfctl -x loud to be executed before the main pfctl execution. So just waiting for it to happen again.

                              This router does have the third-party adam:ONE package which does create pf rules in the userrules anchor. So it's possible that they are both attempting to add a rule at the same time.
                              Although this wasn't an issue prior to pfSense Plus 22.05 as previously pfSense would detect the device busy error and attempt it again. But now pfctl locks up for lack of a more technical term and additional attempts fail.

                              I've also seen someone mention they had snort installed which may have the same symptom if snort is adding a block rule while pfctl runs.

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                                Flole @artooro
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                                @artooro Yes that's me who has snort installed.

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                                  Flole @kprovost
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                                  @kprovost said in Strange error: There were error(s) loading the rules: pfctl: pfctl_rules:

                                  EBUSY almost certainly means we've failed in pf_ioctl_addrule(), when checking ticket numbers.

                                  Is there any reason why there is absolutely no debug output when things fail? If there would be a log message like "ticket number x is causing issues" into dmesg it would make this a lot easier to debug. It's not like it's often executed so that additional log output wouldn't really slow things down, especially if it's only executed during failure scenarios.

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                                  • bmeeksB
                                    bmeeks
                                    last edited by bmeeks

                                    The Snort custom blocking plugin does not add rules when blocking. Instead, it simply adds the offending IP address (or addresses if both source and destination are to be blocked) to the pre-existing snort2c pf table.

                                    Here is the call Snort makes when blocking:

                                    ioctl(data->fd, DIOCRADDADDRS, &io)
                                    
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                                      kprovost @Flole
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                                      @flole We don't log such errors by default, because otherwise the kernel would spend more time logging errors than actually doing useful work.

                                      It's not just the ticket check, there are dozens of checks in DIOCADDRULENV alone. We do have Dtrace probe points for a lot of those, for when we're debugging things, and there is optional debug output at the ticket check, that's why I asked for the pfctl -x loud.

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                                        kprovost @bmeeks
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                                        @bmeeks That could potentially also be causing a ticket mismatch in DIOCADDRULENV. There's a ticket number check on the ruleset, and another one for the address list. The pfctl -x loud enabled kernel output should let us figure out which one.

                                        Given the presence of the DIOCRADDADDRS call from snort I'm 95% confident it'll be the pool ticket, but it'd be good to confirm anyway.

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                                          kprovost
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                                          If people are feeling adventurous there's an experimental (amd64) kernel here: http://pfsense-build-01.netgate.com/~kp/kernel.tar.bz2

                                          It should prevent pf from getting stuck, where it's unable to update rules.

                                          Extract that in /boot/. It will overwrite the existing kernel there, so ideally test this on test machines, or snapshotted VM's.
                                          (To be clear: this is an amd64 kernel, do not try it on 3100 or 1100 or 2100, because it will not work there.)

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                                          • GertjanG
                                            Gertjan @kprovost
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                                            @kprovost said in Strange error: There were error(s) loading the rules: pfctl: pfctl_rules:

                                            feeling adventurous

                                            Always.

                                            @kprovost said in Strange error: There were error(s) loading the rules: pfctl: pfctl_rules:

                                            http://pfsense-build-01.netgate.com/~kp/kernel.tar.bz2

                                            http ? Thought that was ditched some time ago.

                                            pfsense-build-01.netgate.com
                                            is not accessible for the common morsels.

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                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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