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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Unless you're passing through hardware vmxnet will be faster.

      But you must add a tunable to enable mutli-queue on them:
      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/hardware/tune.html#vmware-vmx-4-interfaces

      Steve

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        Averlon @mauro.tridici
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        @mauro-tridici said in slow pfsense IPSec performance:

        AES-NI is available only on one of the hypervisor, so I can't enable it on both ends.

        This is most likely the bottleneck here. You have to ensure, that AES-NI is available on both ends. Otherwise you won't see any higher throughput with 4 vCPUs for you IPsec traffic.

        @stephenw10 said in slow pfsense IPSec performance:

        Unless you're passing through hardware vmxnet will be faster.

        vmxnet will have less overhead, but won't deliver necessary more throughput. I had horrible performance on pfSense 2.4.x / FreeBSD 11.x with vmxnet3. Something between average 600 and 700 Mbit with a high variance for bulk downloads.
        I'm still using e1000 on good old pfSense 2.5.1. For Gigabit Link it delivers almost full rate. I just re-tested it from a VM NAT'ed by pfSense on the same ESXi. This is the same old Xeon E3-1245v6 Box

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        @mauro-tridici: You should test both NIC Types with the current Version and implement the tunable stephenw mentioned. It may improve non encrypted throughput, but won't solve you IPsec issue.

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          mauro.tridici @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 nothing to do, VMXNET + tunable didn't help me. thank you again for you support.

          I think I should change from IPSEC to a different lan to lan vpn solution.
          Could you please say me the solution you suggest?

          Thank you in advance,
          Mauro

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            mauro.tridici @Averlon
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            @averlon thank you for your support. unfortunately, vmxnet and tunable didn't help and I think I have to give up.
            non encrypted throughput between the WAN interface of the two pfsense instances is very good. encrypted traffic on IPSEC tunnel is very poor...

            Is there any other solution to create a lan to lan vpn easily ?

            Thank you,
            Mauro

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              OpenVPN is easy.
              Wireguard requires more manual setup but will be faster.

              Steve

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                mauro.tridici @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Thank you for your reply.
                I just configured OpenVPN, it works, but it is slower than IPSEC...
                So, I have a last attempt to do using wireguard, but I read that "WireGuard is available as an experimental add-on package" in pfsense 2.6.0.

                What do you think about that? Should I give up and buy two new hypervisors with AES-NI enabled in order to use IPSEC and reach the expected performance?

                Thanks for your patience,
                Mauro

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Hmm, well the first thing I would do it test running an IPSec tunnel between the sites using any other method. So preferably pfSense bare metal at each end. Make sure there isn't something in the route throttling VPN traffic.
                  This feels more like a virtualization issue though.

                  How slow is the OpenVPN tunnel? How are you testing it? How is it configured?

                  Steve

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                    A Former User
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                    [ 5] 0.00-10.09 sec 1.01 GBytes 864 Mbits/sec receiver

                    Plus the TCP/IP overheat on top you get nearly 1 GBit/s.
                    Getting from the pure "in real life" situation something like
                    30 % throughput out of this with IPSec is really nice in my eyes. Together with AES-NI you may get some numbers plus
                    and if QAT is on both ends in game you may get out once more again better numbers for your VPN.

                    What do you think about that? Should I give up and buy two new hypervisors with AES-NI enabled in order to use IPSEC and reach the expected performance?

                    A small 2nd hand hardware, with Xeon E3-12xxv2/3
                    will do the job with ease for you. I would not buy fully
                    new VM host hardware. If money is rarely from eBay it
                    might be the best point to get hands on.

                    refurbished server for ~165 €
                    All in one
                    refurbished server for ~180 €
                    Plus adding a case, psu and Intel i350 NIC

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                      mauro.tridici @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 the OpenVPN tunnel bitrate is 120Mbps and I'm using the default configuration mentioned in the link you provided. I also tried to reduced the impact of encryption and authentication mode, but nothing changed.

                      During the next days I will try to use bare metal pfsense instances. No limitation or something similar is throttling the VPN traffic in the route.

                      Thank you very much.

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                        mauro.tridici @A Former User
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                        @dobby_ thank you for sharing your suggestions. During the next days I will try to use two bare metal pfsense instances with AES-NI enabled. Thanks again for your help

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                          A Former User @mauro.tridici
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                          @mauro-tridici said in slow pfsense IPSec performance:

                          @dobby_ thank you for sharing your suggestions. During the next days I will try to use two bare metal pfsense instances with AES-NI enabled. Thanks again for your help

                          If so, and AES-NI is in the game, I would try out IPSec
                          together with AES-NI using AES-GCM instead of OpenVPN.

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                            mauro.tridici @A Former User
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                            @dobby_ Sure, I will try to apply your suggestions. Should I activate some other option like "Cryptographic Hardware" in addition to your suggested settings?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              120Mbps should be easily achievable without any crypto hardware. There's definitely something else going on here.

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                                A Former User @mauro.tridici
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                                @mauro-tridici said in slow pfsense IPSec performance:

                                Sure, I will try to apply your suggestions. Should I activate some other option like "Cryptographic Hardware" in addition to your suggested settings?

                                It all depends on the hardware. If AES_NI is in the game I
                                pfSense since 2.6 CE or Plus version will benefit from that
                                but if there is also QAT in the game I would personally upgrade to the pfSense Plus version and try out using
                                the QAT instead. But both together with IPSec AES-GCM.

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