How to get pfSense WAN to accept VLAN 0

Thanks Stephen, do you know if you clone the boot environment before upgrading to 22.11 DEV you can safely return to 22.05 by going back to that boot copy? I'm unsure if it captures the whole OS or just pfsense in that point in time. Thanks

stephenw10 · Oct 17, 2022, 8:08 PM

I was just testing that and, yes, that is now possible. I'm not sure if the new bootloader that allows it has made it into snapshots yet but it will be when they go public.

michaellacroix · Oct 24, 2022, 2:53 PM

@stephenw10

Hi Stephen, have you done any testing with QOS on the WAN interface while using the netgraph script? I was going to configure traffic shaping for VOIP but am unable to choose the WAN interface as a selection. Thanks

stephenw10 · Oct 24, 2022, 3:09 PM

I have not done that. I don't have a WAN that requires. It doesn't surprise me that it wouldn't work though ng is shown as altq capable:
https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/blob/RELENG_2_6_0/src/etc/inc/interfaces.inc#L6946

What error are you seeing?

michaellacroix · Nov 5, 2022, 5:43 AM

@stephenw10

Thanks so much Stephen, I cant wait to be able to use pfsense plus natively without the netgraph script.

cucu007 · Nov 5, 2022, 5:43 AM

Hi Team, any new updates on this...do we have a working for for the latest SS ? I am still stuck in the dark with 2.5.2

Patch · Nov 5, 2022, 5:46 AM

@cucu007 see https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13511

stephenw10 · Nov 5, 2022, 3:53 PM

That's only required to send vlan0 tagged traffic. Most connections that fail to get a DHCP lease from the ISP do so because the ISP is sending vlan0 tagged traffic. That will work in current 2.7 snapshots. See: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12070

Steve

cucu007 · Nov 5, 2022, 4:19 PM

@stephenw10 said in How to get pfSense WAN to accept VLAN 0:

That's only required to send vlan0 tagged traffic. Most connections that fail to get a DHCP lease from the ISP do so because the ISP is sending vlan0 tagged traffic. That will work in current 2.7 snapshots. See: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12070

Steve

Hi Steve,
When would this be ready for us to comsume?

stephenw10 · Nov 5, 2022, 5:08 PM

I have several CE test boxes running current snapshots and they have been pretty stable for some time now. Still hard to recommend using it in 'production' though.
If you can test it that helps any issues of course.

Steve

Jhiggy · Nov 5, 2022, 7:50 PM

Hey guys- I'm using Ziply fiber- which used to be frontier. It is doing exactly this. No ip address on WAN. I've updated my netgate 4100 to the latest dev build and ran the command "ifconfig ix2 pcp 4" and it shows the flag being set correctly. Still no IP address.

I don't understand why this is even a problem. (I get it is because of vlan0-still) How can a major firewall manufacturer...which I actually paid for by the way...not allow all ISPs to work on their device? How can you then- choose to NOT support me. My last request for zero setup was completely ignored- now I know why. I've been in IT for a very long time and this is the first time I've ever run into something like this. First thing I'm doing for my new job is ripping out all the netgate devices that I'm responsible for- why trust a product that just doesn't even work on some internet connections in 2022?????! Absurd!

fresnoboy · Nov 5, 2022, 9:25 PM

@jhiggy If you run pfsense in a virtual machine (ESXi is free for this), then you avoid this issue, and get a lot of advantages like snapshots that are very useful features that are not built into PFSense.

To be honest, this stupidity that AT&T started (and now other Arris based ISPs use) with using VLAN0 and such is highly unusual. They make it very hard for you to use your own equipment. I would not be so harsh on the Netgate people as much as your ISP who inflicts this stupidity on the world.

I think folks who have to suffer with these ISPs do have a great option by running in a ESXi VM. So it's not the end of the world even if this bug isn't fixed for a long time.

stephenw10 · Nov 5, 2022, 9:32 PM

@jhiggy You might be hitting something else there because current 23.01 snaps can accept priority tagged traffic and can accept dhcp offers tagged that way.
You don't usually need to add priority tags to the replies so setting a pcp value shouldn't be required.
Perhaps that ISP has some other requirement like a vlan tag?

The only thing outstanding there is the driver bug in e1000 that requires vlan hardware tagging be disabled. You wouldn't hit that on an ix NIC though.

Steve