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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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      @johnnybinator what switch is it exactly? I have worked with many a switches over the years. But mostly cisco for sure - but I would be curious to look at the manual for a switch that drops all untagged on trunk..

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        johnnybinator @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz it’s an fs.com s390024t. It’s 24port copper with 4 sfp+, fabless. I bought it for the silence.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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          @johnnybinator said in IPv6 Question:

          s390024t

          Well quick look over - sure seems like trunk will have a pvid to me..

          Switch(config)#show interface brief ethernet 0/0/1

          Can we see that for your interface, this would show the pvid and or utvlan

          So unless you did something with ingress filtering like
          "ingress acceptable-frame tagged" or something that would remove that.. Trunk ports always have a default pvid.. And do something with untagged. This is normally put onto the default vlan of the switch.

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            johnnybinator @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz
            Looks like native VLAN is one when you don't specify. I did not know that. I used to do:

            switchport trunk allowed vlan all and then swithport trunk remove 1 to shut down VLAN 1 as I am not using it at all.

            But I stopped doing that in some troubleshooting step I was doing a while back and have not put it back. This problem with a host with a trunk port getting an IPv6 address from VLAN11 persisted through that change. I'm going to create a dead VLAN and set the native VLAN to that and see what happens. I'm pretty confident that will fix this problem.

            s3900l.johnnyb.dev-1#show int configuration eth 3/26
            Name : To PfSense
            Port Admin : Up
            Speed-duplex Capabilities : 10Gfull
            Nego-Speed-duplex : 10Gfull
            Flow Control : Disabled
            VLAN Trunking : Disabled
            MAC Learning : Enabled
            Link-Status Trap : Disabled
            Media Type : None
            MTU : 9216
            Broadcast Threshold : Disabled
            Multicast Threshold : Disabled
            Unknown Unicast Threshold : Disabled
            Broadcast Block : Disabled
            Unknown Multicast Block : Disabled
            Unknown Unicast Block : Disabled
            Ingress Rate Limit : Disabled, 10000000 kbits/second
            Egress Rate Limit : Disabled, 10000000 kbits/second
            VLAN Mode : Trunk
            Vlan Ingress filtering : Disabled
            Native VLAN : 1
            GVRP Status : Disabled
            VLAN : 1(u), 6(t), 7(t), 8(t), 10(t)
            11(t), 12(t), 13(t), 14(t), 20(t)
            30(t), 40(t), 41(t), 50(t), 60(t)
            70(t), 80(t), 82(t), 90(t), 100(t)
            110(t), 120(t), 121(t), 122(t), 130(t)
            140(t), 150(t), 151(t), 152(t), 160(t)
            170(t), 180(t), 190(t), 200(t), 210(t)
            300(t), 400(t), 500(t), 600(t), 700(t)
            800(t), 900(t), 999(t)
            Forbidden VLAN :
            QinQ Status : Disabled
            QinQ Mode : Normal
            QinQ TPID : 8100 (Hex)

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              What does eth 3/20 show, where the host was connected?

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                @johnnybinator said in IPv6 Question:

                Native VLAN : 1
                VLAN : 1(u), 6(t), 7(t), 8(t), 10(t)
                11(t), 12(t), 13(t), 14(t), 20(t)

                So that looks like switch default vlan to me..

                Could you please just do the command I asked for on the interface connect to your device your saying is getting IPv6 address from your vlan 11.

                Or the above output on the port connected to your devicel. But your command above clearly shows there is an untagged vlan on that port, even though you say your trunked.. And that your trunk had no pvid.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  I blame Cisco! Using their own terminology for everything.... 🙄

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 not sure if I would say that ;) But what I will say is I like this output from cli?

                    VLAN : 1(u), 6(t), 7(t), 8(t), 10(t)
                    11(t), 12(t), 13(t), 14(t), 20(t)
                    30(t), 40(t), 41(t), 50(t), 60(t)
                    70(t), 80(t), 82(t), 90(t), 100(t)
                    110(t), 120(t), 121(t), 122(t), 130(t)
                    140(t), 150(t), 151(t), 152(t), 160(t)
                    170(t), 180(t), 190(t), 200(t), 210(t)
                    300(t), 400(t), 500(t), 600(t), 700(t)
                    800(t), 900(t), 999(t)

                    Or did copy that from some gui and paste.. That is easy way to show what is allowed, that is tagged what is untagged.. But I am thinking that might be copy paste from a gui?

                    I keep seeing these fs.com switches mentioned all over the place.. I should try and pick up one to play with..

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                      johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz s3900l.johnnyb.dev-1#show int config eth 3/20
                      Name : to NFS Server
                      Port Admin : Up
                      Speed-duplex Capabilities : 1000full
                      Nego-Speed-duplex : Auto
                      Flow Control : Disabled
                      VLAN Trunking : Disabled
                      MAC Learning : Enabled
                      Link-Status Trap : Disabled
                      Media Type : None
                      MTU : 9216
                      Broadcast Threshold : Disabled
                      Multicast Threshold : Disabled
                      Unknown Unicast Threshold : Disabled
                      Broadcast Block : Disabled
                      Unknown Multicast Block : Disabled
                      Unknown Unicast Block : Disabled
                      Ingress Rate Limit : Disabled, 1000000 kbits/second
                      Egress Rate Limit : Disabled, 1000000 kbits/second
                      VLAN Mode : Trunk
                      Vlan Ingress filtering : Enabled
                      Native VLAN : 1
                      GVRP Status : Disabled
                      VLAN : 1(u), 6(t), 7(t), 8(t), 10(t)
                      11(t), 12(t), 13(t), 14(t), 20(t)
                      30(t), 40(t), 41(t), 50(t), 60(t)
                      70(t), 80(t), 82(t), 90(t), 100(t)
                      110(t), 120(t), 121(t), 122(t), 130(t)
                      140(t), 150(t), 151(t), 152(t), 160(t)
                      170(t), 180(t), 190(t), 200(t), 210(t)
                      300(t), 400(t), 500(t), 600(t), 700(t)
                      800(t), 900(t), 999(t)
                      Forbidden VLAN :
                      QinQ Status : Disabled
                      QinQ Mode : Normal
                      QinQ TPID : 8100 (Hex)

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by stephenw10

                        Hmm, well I wouldn't expect a client on that port to see anything on VLAN11. Even if the client is stripping the tags it would (should) be unable to reply.
                        Something odd at play here.

                        I guess wait for the results of testing the client connected to pfSense directly.

                        Steve

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                          johnnybinator @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Will be later today or tomorrow, I will report back.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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                            @johnnybinator So from that config, if untagged traffic when into port 3/20 is would come out 3/26 untagged.

                            I just find it impossible that would be seen by vlan 11 interface in pfsense..

                            Now it would be seen by an ix0 if that is what is connected to port 3/26.. But how would ix0.11 see it, why wouldn't ix0.6 or .7 or .10 see it?

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                              johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz I agree 100%. A Clue now that you've had me thinking more about the switch than the pfsense appliance: The switch itself is setup to have an IP (v4) on VLAN 11. but the way I added an IPv6 address put it on VLAN 1:

                              interface vlan 11
                              ip address 10.200.0.247 255.255.255.0

                              interface vlan 1
                              ipv6 address xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx::247/64

                              Perhaps I should put the ipv6 address on VLAN11.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Hmm, is that IPv6 address in any of the pfSense interface subnets?

                                Since pfSense doesn't have an interface on the untagged ix0 NIC I don't expect it to be.

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                                  johnnybinator @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 yes, that's the LAN /64. (VLAN11). I changed it so that the IPv6 address is on VLAN 11 instead of VLAN 1. I belive that is going to fix all this crap. Cannot verify until later.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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                                    @johnnybinator if your switch as an IPv6 on its vlan1 - maybe it handing out address via slaac? Since clearly untagged traffic coming into that port would be on vlan 1.

                                    That seems logical to be honest.. While somehow pfsense seeing untagged traffic on its vlan 11 does not.

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                                      johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz Yeah. I was thinking the same. Odd thing is, the switch is not providing any IPv6 services. Somehow the pfsense box is doing the RA on VLAN11, but the switch is seeing that on VLAN 1, because I had accidentally put an IPv6 address on VLAN 1.

                                      I put the IPv6 address on the switch via the GUI. It mentions nothing about the VLAN it is assigning the address to. I should have just done it via CLI.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        I would expect it to be on the switch native VLAN unless you specifically set it otherwise.

                                        I still wouldn't expect it to allow traffic between that and VLAN 11 though.

                                        This is a curious situation you have discovered! 🤔

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 said in IPv6 Question:

                                          This is a curious situation you have discovered!

                                          For sure... there has to be a piece of the puzzle we are missing. Since it makes zero sense that untagged traffic coming into 3/20 on his switch could somehow make it to pfsense tagged vlan 11. When clearly on his port connected to ix0 on pfsense also shows untagged as 1..

                                          From his 2 switch port configs, the untagged or native vlan is clearly shown as vlan 1

                                          Is there any other ports connected to this server.. That could somehow put untagged traffic on vlan 11 on the switch?

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                                            johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz Not that I'm aware of.

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