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      aaronouthier @rcoleman-netgate
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      ZimaBoard is my current pfSense box, not my current Home Assistant box. It has the somewhat problematic RealTek Network adapters. I’m sure you’ll find a good use for it at some point.

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        rcoleman-netgate Netgate @aaronouthier
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        @aaronouthier Yep, I was going to test out a PCIe Intel NIC on it later on when I played around with CE on it.

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          aaronouthier @rcoleman-netgate
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          I trust it’ll be a multiport NIC. A single port router is about as useful as a solar-powered flashlight, a screen door for a U-boat, an ejector seat for a helicopter, …

          On a serious note: It seems a bit overpowered now, at least for my needs. Also, there is no easy way to keep a PCIe device securely connected to the Zimaboard, so put it somewhere it won’t get bumped or jostled. I had hoped to wall-mount mine, but that doesn’t seem feasible.

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            rcoleman-netgate Netgate @aaronouthier
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            @aaronouthier Zipties! ;-)

            I actually had it in mind for a very different project... and it would be really well suited for that one, I hope...

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              aaronouthier
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              Yup. Ha! Zip ties and duct tape. THE 2 most essential items in any DIY’ers toolbelt. (Where said toolbelt is made of 2 long strips of duct tape, with many ziptie loops to attach items 🤪).

              I mean, duct tape is the REAL version of the force from Star Wars - has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together!

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                rcoleman-netgate Netgate @aaronouthier
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                @aaronouthier Don't forget hot snot and CA glue

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                  aaronouthier @rcoleman-netgate
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                  @rcoleman-netgate
                  At the risk of walking into a trap:

                  What is CA glue?

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                    rcoleman-netgate Netgate @aaronouthier
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                    @aaronouthier in the US called crazy glue or super glue; cyanoacrylate is the chemical/generic name.
                    Hotsnot is what David Jones (EEV Blog) refers to glue gun glue as. 😁

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                      aaronouthier @rcoleman-netgate
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                      Aaaand that was my next question. I first thought you were continuing my silliness.

                      I really need to put my tablet down now and get some rest.

                      G’night.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @aaronouthier
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                        @aaronouthier said in More pfSense woes.:

                        client is has 2 radios and is connected via 2.4 Ghz and 5 GHz networks simultaneously,

                        Nope that isn't a thing either ;)

                        getting a 300 Mbps sustained rate over an n300 router is unlikely

                        Wouldn't be rare or unlikely - it would be an impossible thing.. a N600 router, that can support 4 stream it might be possible to see 300 real world if you had again that unicorn client that could do 4 streams ;)

                        Not talking 2.4 and 5 radio bands.. There is no client that I am aware of or router even that would allow combining those.. Sure they add the numbers up on the box for what the max PHY is on the 2.4 and the PHY on the 5ghz. But no single client can leverage that.. Shoot they add up all 3 on the tri band routers ;) Its marketing nonsense.

                        Shoot a old N300 router, prob only has fast ethernet connections anyway, 100mbps - how would you even get 150 (half of the phy) on those ;)

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                          aaronouthier @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in More pfSense woes.:

                          @aaronouthier said in More pfSense woes.:

                          client is has 2 radios and is connected via 2.4 Ghz and 5 GHz networks simultaneously,

                          Nope that isn't a thing either ;)
                          Actually, I believe it is, but certain conditions need to be met. For one thing, both bands need to have identical SSIDs - no 2.4g suffix on one, and 5g on the other, etc.

                          It’s uncommon to find this feature on a router. Some Netgear routers support it. It’s next-to-impossible to find on client devices though. My Alfa-AC1900 USB card has this ability in hardware, but it seems the only stable driver is for windows, as it uses the Realtek RTL-8814AU chipset. *nix support is present, but incomplete and buggy.

                          getting a 300 Mbps sustained rate over an n300 router is unlikely

                          Wouldn't be rare or unlikely - it would be an impossible thing.. a N600 router, that can support 4 stream it might be possible to see 300 real world if you had again that unicorn client that could do 4 streams ;)

                          Not talking 2.4 and 5 radio bands.. There is no client that I am aware of or router even that would allow combining those.. Sure they add the numbers up on the box for what the max PHY is on the 2.4 and the PHY on the 5ghz. But no single client can leverage that.. Shoot they add up all 3 on the tri band routers ;) Its marketing nonsense.

                          Shoot a old N300 router, prob only has fast ethernet connections anyway, 100mbps - how would you even get 150 (half of the phy) on those ;)

                          Good point! Now that I think of it, my AirPort Extreme N is indeed Fast Ethernet. Clearly I was hallucinating the 300 Mbps. If I can manage to be up in 7 hours, I’ll comment-out the changes to loader.conf.local and retest. It’s now 11 PM. I need to conduct my testing before everyone is up. People get upset when I interrupt their Call of Duty game, or whatever it is that people play now.

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @aaronouthier
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @aaronouthier said in More pfSense woes.:

                            Some Netgear routers support it.

                            Name one - link to this feature in the docs.. Same with that usb AC1900 card.. I don't see that mentioned about it, I would think such a feature would be crazy mentioned all over the place..

                            Dual band routers and cards is very common - joining the connection for a big fat connection is not..

                            The same SSID on both bands, again very common. But you don't actually connect to both of them at the same time and get additive speed.. This is not a thing..

                            Just because you have the same ssid on both your 2.4 and 5 doesn't mean the bandwidth is used and shared at the same time by a single client. The client will connect to which one is the better choice.. All of my ssids are common for both 2.4 and 5.. Client actually only using 1 of those.. You can use band steering to try and get a client to pick one vs the other. But again your not using both at the same time.

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                            My controller is offline currently due to upgrade of my nas disks that is in progress. But I can show you the logs where say my wifes phone as she moves about the house moves from using 5ghz to 2.4.. Or moves from one AP to another..

                            The client is the one that makes a decision on what is the better choice, the 2.4 or the 5.. But if you have a way for a dual band router and dual band client to leverage both bands at the same time for a "fat" connection - your rich man, rich!! This is currently not a thing that is for sure..

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