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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by stephenw10 Oct 23, 2022, 2:02 PM Oct 23, 2022, 1:57 PM

    Ha. Confirmed. 😁

    Not possible to enable EIST which is disappointing but you can enable USB booting.

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      nohara
      last edited by Oct 25, 2022, 8:31 PM

      Can anyone DM me the M470 bios please?

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        nohara
        last edited by Nov 2, 2022, 12:57 AM

        @hangmansnoose001380 could you possibly provide me the unlocked bios for the M470 please?

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          MH 0 @ost0
          last edited by Nov 2, 2022, 8:00 AM

          @ost0 Worked on my 570 as well, nice find, thanks.

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            nohara @MH 0
            last edited by Nov 2, 2022, 4:58 PM

            @mh-0 Do you happen to have the unlocked bios? If so, could you dm me it please. Thanks!

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              MH 0 @nohara
              last edited by Nov 2, 2022, 5:00 PM

              @nohara No sorry, just confirming I could log into the stock BIOS with the newly discovered standard BIOS password for the M270 / M370 / M470 / M570. Cheers.

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                nohara @MH 0
                last edited by Nov 2, 2022, 5:17 PM

                @mh-0 what is the newly discovered standard BIOS password?

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                  MH 0 @nohara
                  last edited by Nov 3, 2022, 7:44 AM

                  @nohara See OST0's picture in their post a few above, I don't believe I can post the actual password.

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                    MH 0 @MH 0
                    last edited by Nov 3, 2022, 7:53 AM

                    @mh-0 To follow up on my post, I got hold of 32gb of standard non ecc DDR4. Specifically "32GB PC RAM Memory Samsung 2 x 16GB DDR4-2400 UDIMM PC4-19200T-U Dual Rank x8" from Ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225154694296

                    It works and I've not got a ProxMox 7 host up and running on the M570 with PFsense, multiple windows servers and an Ubuntu LTS server performing quite happily with decent performance.

                    I've got 2 SSD's and an HDD in it, although the HDD isn't 'in it' as such due to space constraints, I need to upgrade the HDD to a 2.5" one, the current 3.5" is too big for the case. Used a cheap Msata to sata adaptor to get a regular sata ssd running from the msata connector.

                    I've replaced the noisy case fans with a nocturna that is whisper quiet, I need to get a second one to ensure decent air flow. https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071J8CZP9

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                      bingo600 @MH 0
                      last edited by bingo600 Nov 4, 2022, 6:07 AM Nov 4, 2022, 6:07 AM

                      @mh-0 said in pfSense on Watchguard M370:

                      I need to upgrade the HDD to a 2.5" one

                      Chose wisely ....

                      I in 2017 , I installed a "Mechanical" Samsung 1TB 2.5" in my Linux box , as the system/root drive. Rationale was that it would be pretty much "always on" due to syslog. And that it used less power than a 3.5".

                      1.5 years after it died "hard" ... Found out that most "Mechanic" 2-5" was NOT intended to run 24/7.

                      IMHO - Get a SSD

                      I have a HGST 2.5" in a VMware "mini", that has been running for 4 years now , but will switch it to a SSD when it's due time.

                      /Bingo

                      If you find my answer useful - Please give the post a šŸ‘ - "thumbs up"

                      pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                      QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                      CPU  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                      LAN  : 4 x Intel 211, Disk  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                        dfd1125
                        last edited by dfd1125 Dec 11, 2022, 3:04 AM Dec 11, 2022, 3:04 AM

                        I’m about to take the plunge and install OPNSense on an M470 that just recently fell out of support with Watchguard. Thanks to all for the hard work put in for this device to make this possible. I had a question related to the add on modules… has anyone attempted to get any 10g SFP+ modules to work? Is so, what cards and what adapters are needed? The Watchguard specific card is hard to find and very expensive so I’d rather find some other compatible card and rig it in somehow. Anyone done anything like this with this device series?

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                          Mookatroid @dfd1125
                          last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 12:18 PM

                          @dfd1125
                          I have been running my M470's for quite some time with this Intel one ....

                          https://www.ebay.ca/itm/182885287213?epid=10029956115&hash=item2a94d0052d:g:a2QAAOSw21pflzXO&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4IhB5%2FTkzySfwcIHa3DMhnFmhjzICRDMzHaj29OKl6Cam50fv0kjIFfMxkXV%2FlvbRrPBg3wurDiXWGV50JDVOjHKkaXy6ONWtsO9F%2BPM%2FfLhUeJcQe6Nx31LY3RxB5tsZNf9npFhvb7mJaNg14suWtQ04caWpN4CPJQoViveWQDcO%2BWMats6%2BTHlUK%2FEOtA5V%2FLOj2x0wXRvlsQNoJ48%2BGjYZGni%2Bry91ZYzJRgSTP0qAtvIZO%2BLc4iREJtPEPCjWCMnSF9EDiZD1mBifw7oOxTpsZzbwg4fFgPyvcdoZQ3N%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_iGuJGgYQ

                          ... and these Axiom ones ...

                          SFP-10GBASE-T-AX
                          WG8583-AX

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                            dfd1125 @Mookatroid
                            last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 1:59 PM

                            @mookatroid I’m actually looking for an interface card that will work with the M470, not the actual SFP modules. Is there some sort of adapter that will allow me to connect a normal PCIE card to the device? The actual Watchguard interface card is hard to find and crazy expensive. I need a minimum of 2 ports.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 2:45 PM

                              The slot is just a standard PCIe slot AFAIK. Just the form factor is different. You could probably make it work with one of those flexible PCIe cable adapters and some metalwork on the case.

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                                dfd1125 @stephenw10
                                last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 2:58 PM

                                @stephenw10 I am thinking the same thing. Is there any recommended 2 or 4 port SFP+ cards that that are fairly power efficient and work well with OPNSense that I should look for? Sorry for all the questions, I just don’t want to purchase some crap card by mistake.

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                                  Mookatroid @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 3:27 PM

                                  @stephenw10

                                  @dfd1125

                                  Yes
                                  The interface used by the WatchGuard 4-port 10G module is a standard 8x PCI-e slot.
                                  You can install an 8x extension cable and then plug in an Intel X520-SR1 or X520-SR2 and pfSense detects and supports this.

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                                    Mookatroid
                                    last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 3:29 PM

                                    Now .... does anyone know if a VGA header is hiding somewhere on the M470 motherboard ?
                                    :)

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10 Dec 12, 2022, 1:06 PM Dec 11, 2022, 10:25 PM

                                      I don't think there is one. The Watchguard variant is quite different to the Lanner 4210 board. The VGA port location is just not present.

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                                        MH 0 @Mookatroid
                                        last edited by Dec 12, 2022, 8:55 AM

                                        @mookatroid I never tried to use the VGA Header (if it has one) I installed the OS in a different machine, enabled console output and then moved the drive into Watchguard and used the console connection to do all remaining setup and tweaks.

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                                          bandit1170
                                          last edited by Jan 22, 2023, 10:41 PM

                                          So in theory, can one now use the discovered BIOS password to set it to boot via USB and install pfSense that way? Or is it still suggested to just install outside of the Firebox?
                                          Currently running 2.6.0 on an XTM5 with a Core2Duo E7400 and 4GB of RAM. Will have access to an M370 soon and wondering if it's worth upgrading to it. I don't feel compelled to go through the reflashing of the BIOS process, but if it works fine with the locked BIOS and the ability to set fan speeds thanks to @stephenw10, I think I'd be fine. Can you update the CPU and RAM without flashing the BIOS? What is the latest gen CPU you can add to the M370?

                                          Or should I just figure out how to reflash the BIOS?

                                          Thanks for all the work on this unit. Looks like it will be a huge upgrade, looking at the specs.

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