J1900 performance
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@craig5 I have J1900 based super micro board now that will route my fiber 1000/1000 at almost line speed. So they are decent little boxes 5 years ago. Just cannot do real IPS/IDS at that speed. I am looking into a I5 solution next outing.
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@azcoyote Yep can't complain. It probably doesn't need it but I recently whacked a fan on it (plugged into the usb), dropped the temp 20 degrees, it was running pretty warm in my garage:
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@jknott
I can confirm, although a little late that it can take a 500meg fibre line with PPPoE. You need to setup dedicated DMZhttps://www.reddit.com/r/bell/comments/xyh46q/bell_3gbps_pfsense_and_pppoe/
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Doing that removes the PPPoE though and also adds double NAT. Which isn't a problem for most things but will break, for example, UPnP.
Steve
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@stephenw10
really? I though DMZ is just a passthrough to that port or resource without having to compute translation. Either way, with this Bell Fibe modem HH4000 I think it is, there are no other ways that I have found.At least my speeds do not seem to be that affected. I sure hope someone out there finds a way to bridge this modem instead...
I do the Wizard setup with sense to connect pppoe
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Hmm, well you could be right in this instance. 'DMZ' mode on most routers is usually just a 1:1 NAT setup to a nominated internal IP. However here the OP in the Reddit thread talks about the upstream router 'cloning' the client MAC address to use for PPPoE and passing the IP address back via DHCP. If that's the case then you will still have a public IP on the pfSense WAN address and it's not double NAT'd. Which would be the ideal scenario!
Either way you are removing the PPPoE connection from pfSense and hence the throughput restriction.
So, to be clear, that doesn't imply the J1900 can pass >500Mbps over PPPoE. Just in case anyone reads this and interpreted it that way.
Steve
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@stephenw10
cool. Yes, this is my results, which is pretty aligned with doing the same test on google directly into one of the ports.Hosted by Bell Canada (Kanata, ON) [121.27 km]: 5.812 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 519.48 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
Upload: 156.92 Mbit/sThe only comment that scared me from the OP on reddit was
"The only potential issue with the Advanced DMZ configuration is if PPPoE on the XGS-PON side changes IP, does it stop working until the DHCP lease gets renewed on the router side?"Cause this would cause a break and DDNS would get messed up. To date, everything has been good, cross fingers. maybe I would try a modem reboot and see...
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@stephenw10 with IPS/IDS turned off, my J1900 handled PPPOE at gig speed just fine. It can do 500 with zero question.
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The more I read about the "fun" Bell customers have, the happier I am that I'm on Rogers. Here's what's involved in putting a Rogers modem into bridge mode:
That's it. All that's necessary is to click on that button. On top of that, my IPv4 address is virtually static, the host name is based on MAC addresses and so doesn't change unless I change hardware and, unlike Bell, Rogers provides IPv6.
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Bridge mode here would likely pass the PPPoE session to pfSense which isn't really what you'd want. The fact it can offload the PPPoE while still passing the public IP to pfSense is ideal really. But only if the router doesn't have other restrictions like a limited state table etc.
Offloading PPPoE that way requires shenanigans! I have tried, and failed, to do it with OpenWRT before. -
@jknott
Bell always tries to restrict in any way possible to have people use only their hardware. It has never been a secret Bell like to play "my way, or the highway"I miss broadband...
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Any chance you could move to Rogers?
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@jknott
I wish man. We moved out of the city, Bell is the only provider. Hell, I even almost got us kicked off because of my complaints to Bell. We had 3 megs High Speed copper line, paying 75$ a month if you can imagine that, for a line they said could do at least 5megs.We now have Fibre in the country side 500+megs, thanks for the governement grants Bell and other benefit from this year... so can't complain... well, let's be honest, Bell is not the best in regard to customer service, and the way they deal with their hardware!
So I will remain content with my internet service as long as my setup @stephenw10 and I have been discussing. so far, so good :)
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@gstlouis said in J1900 performance:
well, let's be honest, Bell is not the best in regard to customer service, and the way they deal with their hardware!
Quite so. I have also had to deal with them on behalf of business customers. The techs in the field are OK, but the help(?) desk is useless.
I pay $192.94 for 500/30 Internet that actually provides over 900 Mb down, home phone and IPTV, including some extras. Also, my modem provides two connections, each with it's own IPv4 address and /56 IPv6 prefix. -
I'm weighing in really late on this but may as well.
In my own J1900 (Qotom PC) testing.
I get around 850mbps minimum doing NAT/router.
Usually around 900mbps.
And just barely under 100mbps OpenVPN performance.
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@n8lbv said in J1900 performance:
Usually around 900mbps.
But counting then on top of that the TCP overhead
you will still going over 900 MBit/s, something like
920 - 940 MBit/s, so it is nearly a full GBit/s.
