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      Chrisan @Chrisan
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      @chrisan Tried again, twice. No success. Going to knock off for the evening. Thx for the help so far.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        That sure reads like a bad SSD. I would expect to see a bunch of errors at boot and during the install though.

        As a test you can probably install to another USB drive and then boot from that. I would not recommend doing that for anything but a test though.

        Steve

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          Chrisan
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          Merry Christmas and happy holidays everyone!
          I had a few moments today to dive back into my pFSense project. Here is where I am at:

          1. Successfully installed V2.6
          2. Verified NIC ports using the autodetect option so I know I'm plugged in correctly
          3. Configured WAN to DHCP both V4 and 6
          4. Configured LAN to the default IP options
          5. Got into the webGUI and worked through the setup wizard until I got to the Setup Completed screen
          6. The last setup wizard screen presented some options like "take a survey." I couldn't connect on any of them. And couldn't connect on some popular websites like Yahoo that I tried. I tried to reset the cable modem a couple times with no luck.

          My setup: Netgear Nighthawk cable modem ===> pFSense computer ===> desktop computer with a known good NIC. That's it nothing else.

          Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thx

          A couple shots from my work today:
          IMG_0674.jpg IMG_0673.jpg

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            JKnott @Chrisan
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            @chrisan

            Normally, you set the WAN to DHCP and the ISP provides all the details. I haven't had a manual config since I first got an Internet connection, back in the early 90s, when I used SLIP over a dial up modem.

            BTW, you may want to use a newer version of pfSense. The current version is 2.6.0. Do an update when you get connected.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              JKnott @Chrisan
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              @chrisan

              No need to hide RFC1918 addresses. They're irrelevant off your LAN.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                Chrisan @JKnott
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                My WAN is configured to DHCP. I'm already on version 2.6.0. I didn't really configure anything manually, just went with the defaults and then got into the webgui and went through the setup wizard.

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                  Chrisan @Chrisan
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                  @chrisan Here is the sequence that finally got my computer connected to the web:

                  1. Reset Net gearCM1100 modem by pulling power and waiting 30 seconds or so, plug back in.
                  2. Plug WAN cable into pFSense box
                  3. Hit option 4 to "reset to factory derfaults" and reboot pFSense

                  Chris

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                    rcoleman-netgate Netgate @JKnott
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                    @jknott In this case it might actually be the PROBLEM.

                    If the modem is giving the same subnet as their LAN they will lose GUI access.

                    Screenshot 2023-01-01 at 11.11.05 AM.png

                    Ryan
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                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Chrisan
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                      @chrisan Makes sense. I suspect you have a public IP now.

                      The Netgear Cable Modems (CMs) are known to give a private (RFC1918 or 192.168.100.x) address before they negotiate with the upstream service. And the lease they give to pfSense is short (like 1-5 minutes) to force a refresh and reassignment.

                      It's annoying but ... better than nothing.

                      Ryan
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                        JKnott @rcoleman-netgate
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                        @rcoleman-netgate said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                        If the modem is giving the same subnet as their LAN they will lose GUI access.

                        ????

                        The DHCP server determines the LAN address. Where are you trying to access the GUI from? You normally access it from the LAN, which means pfSense should have an address within the same subnet as the LAN and the WAN side should have a completely different subnet. Also, you might want to put the modem into bridge mode.

                        Lets start from the beginning.
                        You normally configure the WAN side of pfSense to use DHCP. DHCP provides the subnet and addresses to devices, in this case pfSense.
                        PfSense in turn provides the subnet and addresses to devices on your LAN.
                        The LAN and WAN must have different subnets.

                        BTW, you may want to configure your modem for bridge mode.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @JKnott
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                          @jknott said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                          ????
                          The DHCP server determines the LAN address. Where are you trying to access the GUI from? You normally access it from the LAN, which means pfSense should have an address within the same subnet as the LAN and the WAN side should have a completely different subnet. Also, you might want to put the modem into bridge mode.

                          If your WAN is handing out 192.168.1.x and your LAN is set to 192.168.1.x you will have issues.

                          Ryan
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                            JKnott @rcoleman-netgate
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                            @rcoleman-netgate said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                            It's annoying but ... better than nothing.

                            Would the reject leases option help here?

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                              rcoleman-netgate Netgate @JKnott
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                              Yes. But if you have your LAN on the same network as the CM management IP it won't let you use the CM's static route to that.

                              Ryan
                              Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
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                                JKnott @rcoleman-netgate
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                                @rcoleman-netgate said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                                If your WAN is handing out 192.168.1.x and your LAN is set to 192.168.1.x you will have issues.

                                If you know the modem is handing out that subnet, why are you setting the LAN to the same subnet? You are creating a situation that cannot work. You have the rest of 192.168.0.0/16, plus all of 172.16.0.0/20 and 10.0.0.0/8 to choose from.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  JKnott @rcoleman-netgate
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                                  @rcoleman-netgate

                                  Once again, why are you setting the LAN to the same subnet as what the modem is providing? That cannot and will not work. Pick a different subnet for your LAN>

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                    rcoleman-netgate Netgate @JKnott
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                                    @jknott said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                                    Once again, why are you setting the LAN to the same subnet as what the modem is providing? That cannot and will not work. Pick a different subnet for your LAN>

                                    If someone CAN do something you better believe that they're going to come to TAC with that problem.

                                    Ryan
                                    Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
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                                      Chrisan @rcoleman-netgate
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                                      @rcoleman-netgate said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                                      @jknott said in pFSense Beginner - How to Configure WAN:

                                      Once again, why are you setting the LAN to the same subnet as what the modem is providing? That cannot and will not work. Pick a different subnet for your LAN>

                                      If someone CAN do something you better believe that they're going to come to TAC with that problem.

                                      The problem that I posted was that I couldn't access the internet through my pFSense box and that I needed some help configuring the WAN. I believe I also stated pFSense was new to me. I'm no expert by any means, not even close. Anyway, pFSense is now retrieving the appropriate subnet from the modem and at least this portion of my project is completed and working. Thx.

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                                        rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Chrisan
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                                        @chrisan I wasn't responding to you nor was I referencing your issue but rather responding to @JKnott's comments.

                                        Ryan
                                        Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
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