Plugging SFP transceiver from AT&T box directly into SG-2100
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@dominikhoffmann Well what Internet speed does the client pay for? If it's more than 1Gbps then it'll be using XGS-PON which would use an SFP+ module, which would not work with the SG-2100.
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@dominikhoffmann SFP removal - Remove the fiber. There will be a small handle that will easily swing out, typically opposite of the locking side of the fiber. Gently pull on the extended handle, this will release the lock and the SFP will slide out. A small amount of force (~1lbs) may be needed to remove the SFP, but it should slide easily once the lock releases.
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@gtaxl: I have actually spliced fibers in a laboratory before and connectorized them. However, those were multimode and of the FC type. In the late ’90s I was working on a fingernail-sized 10 Gbit/s datalink.
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@dominikhoffmann Then doing this procedure shouldn't be much of an issue. The fiber is likely going to be a Singlemode fiber with a SC APC connector.
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My ATT fiber is a single mode SC connector. Doing this will bring you back to the GBICs used for FC in the 90's.
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@andyrh said in Plugging SFP transceiver from AT&T box directly into SG-2100:
My ATT fiber is a single mode SC connector. Doing this will bring you back to the GBICs used for FC in the 90's.
Out of curiosity, do you have one of these units? Or a standalone ONT?
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@gtaxl: I will hopefully be able to pull out the modules, take pictures of it and plug it back in, at the very least. We’ll have to see. I’ll come back to this thread, once I have accomplished something on site.
I am trying to talk my client into going with a lower-speed package. Most people willingly pay for way too much bandwidth.
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@gtaxl I have a standalone ONT.
I was told it was 1Gb to my house. If you get a greater than 1Gb ATT changes the SFP at both ends to 10Gb. The throttling is done at the CO. -
@andyrh Yeah likely the OLT is doing the traffic shaping for the line. I don't have AT&T in my area, my brother does. I'm waiting on Spectrum to finish RDOF for my area, they will be deploying EPON based FTTH. Their ONTs give you a 10Gbps Ethernet port, which will pair well with my XG-1541. FS.com makes EPON and GPON ONT SFP modules that you can ssh into and configure the serial number and other parameters and will take an SC APC fiber connector, generally used by these ONT units, but if Spectrum's ONT has a 10G port and just acts as a layer 2 uplink only, I probably won't bother. It definitely is neat though plugging an SFP module directly into your pfSense box.
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@gtaxl: I thought Spectrum was a cable company…
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@dominikhoffmann They are, but for new deployments they use FTTH including their RDOF (Rural Digital Opportunity Fund) deployments. In some areas it will start out as RFoG in other areas they are using EPON. RFoG areas will eventually be upgraded to full EPON. EPON they will give you the Spectrum SONU unit, which is an EPON ONT with a 10G Ethernet port. Upload will be limited to 500Mbps until they change their minds on that.
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@gtaxl I’m using the before mentioned fs.com ONT SFP pluggable in my SG-2100 i france, and it works like a charm. That ONT, can link at both 1Gbe and 2.5Gbe at the SFP side - and it works automatically at 1Gbe in the SG-2100 (which is 1Gbe only).
I have actually tried a wide range of different SFP’s in my SG-2100 (and SG-6100), and both are quite forgiving. Almost anything that can link at 1Gbe will work in them.
However, the SG-6100 does not allow 2.5Gbe SFP link speeds - seems it SFP 1Gbe/SFP+ 10Gbe link only.
Also: it does not like SFP/SFP+ to RJ45 pluggables unless they still emulate being a SX/LX Tranciever. -
@keyser Got the Ubiquiti UF-GP-B+ which should be 2.5G speed. Was working in my 6100. Couldn't provision it by my ISP because I can't access the module to find out it's modem ID that my ISP needs.
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@mrsunfire Good to know, but I assume it was set to 1Gbe on the pfSense side, or was this actually a unit that could link @ 2.5Gbit?
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@keyser It's by default on 1G I think. But it's a OLT not a ONT so it's useless. I go for the FS.com module.
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@gtaxl: I have a couple of pictures of the module now. There was no time to mess with plugging it into the SG-2100 directly.
Here are the pictures:
The unit is a Nokia XGS-PON I-temp 1270 TX. I am trying to find specs on it, but haven’t had much luck. One of Nokia’s white papers says that an XGS-PON is a “10-gigabit-capable symmetric passive optical network.”
So, is the AT&T fiber coming in pulsing at 10 Gbit/s, but throughput is throttled at the CO or somewhere else, or is that module compatible with multiples speeds.
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@dominikhoffmann yeah that's 10Gbps, won't work with the SG-2100. Cool to know what module it is though.
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@gtaxl: What’s your explanation for why it won’t? Is it that the electronic interface’s timing specs don’t match?
Could I use a different, compatible SFP transceiver, instead, and make it work with AT&T’s 10 Gbit/s fiber? My guess is that, if so, I would have problems getting the transceiver provisioned by AT&T.
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@dominikhoffmann You'll need an SFP+ port to use that. The 2100 is a 1G SFP only.
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@dominikhoffmann My understanding is if you have an older ONT then it is 1Gb on the fiber, if you have the newer service that can go above 1Gb then it is 10Gb throttled at the CO.
