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    Anyone seeing more memory usage with 23.01?

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Jarhead
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      @jarhead said in Anyone seeing more memory usage with 23.01?:

      Anyone know why the RC was pulled?
      Wondering if it's related to this memory usage.

      Nope, it's just a naming issue. Nothing to do with any issue.

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        Jarhead @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 Good to know, thanks.
        Was a bit confused when I went to upgrade a second system and it only showed the last beta as the most current. Even went back to the system I already upgraded and it too showed the beta as latest.

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          noah_scott17
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          Seeing 84% on my SG 1100 after upgrade. Started somewhere in the 30% range and has kept creeping up from there. It's a slow increase, but I am waiting to reboot to see how far it goes.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Is that as shown on the dashboard?

            Can you see what is using it in Diag > System Activity or in top output at the CLI?

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              noah_scott17 @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 Hi Steve. Yeah, that's what I see in the GUI. Screenshot 2023-01-11 at 8.51.37 AM.png

              It's actually come up a bit since earlier this morning.

              Here is the Sys Activity tab.
              Screenshot 2023-01-11 at 8.52.55 AM.png

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                The graph of System/Memory from Status > Monitoring can also be helpful to check against.

                "Free RAM is wasted RAM" is still true, if you see a bunch marked for caching then it's also normal/expected.

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                  noah_scott17 @jimp
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                  @jimp very true. Here's the monitoring page. I will keep it running and see if it stabilizes over time. Screenshot 2023-01-11 at 9.35.02 AM.png

                  Thanks Jim!

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                    That's the CPU view, click the wrench and change it to System > Memory

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                      renegade @jimp
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                        renegade
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                        pfs.PNG

                        Same on my SG-1100

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          That's the processor usage, you need to select 'Memory' in the settings like:
                          Screenshot from 2023-01-11 15-06-13.png

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                            noah_scott17 @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 yup. I posted that pre-coffee... Screenshot 2023-01-11 at 10.35.13 AM.png

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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                              Looks like a good chunk of your memory usage is ZFS ARC, which can free itself as needed if other things need the RAM.

                              The first boot post-upgrade will show high ARC/wired usage because of all the disk activity associated with the upgrade.

                              If you reboot after it'll go back down to "normal" but may grow over time.

                              But again, it's like caching RAM, any free RAM is wasted RAM.

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                                noah_scott17 @jimp
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                                @jimp Thanks Jim!

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                                  renegade @jimp
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                                  Have there been changes since 23.01?
                                  Does the bar contain noch wired and arc RAM as well? Or has the arc ram been raised?
                                  For ~7gb ram there should not be much cache necessary.

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                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @renegade
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                                    @renegade said in Anyone seeing more memory usage with 23.01?:

                                    Have there been changes since 23.01?
                                    Does the bar contain noch wired and arc RAM as well? Or has the arc ram been raised?
                                    For ~7gb ram there should not be much cache necessary.

                                    ZFS ARC is counted under Wired.

                                    We didn't explicitly change any tuning but there was a sizable jump between FreeBSD 12.x and FreeBSD 14.x.

                                    Even on 23.01, though, some people reported the same observation where RAM usage appeared higher the first boot after an upgrade.

                                    The memory in the graph marked cache is different, it's not related to ARC. But you want as much caching going on as possible to make use of the RAM rather than it just sitting there. If there is memory pressure, both cache and ARC will lower their own usage to make room for whatever needs it.

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                                      renegade @jimp
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                                      @jimp ok thanks for the explanation.
                                      Understood and makes sense, but it is hard to see if there is ram left for eg plug-ins or not.

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