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    Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch)

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @cloudroot
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      @cloudroot said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

      It just irks me then that I'll have many ports on the 6100

      Why a router can never have too many interfaces ;) But as mentioned they are not "switch" ports - they are discrete interfaces. You could use them as uplinks for your different networks/vlans to your switching environment - which is their purpose.. Not switch ports ;)

      I have a 4860, and it doesn't have too many ports - I use them all.. I have 1 that carries some vlans, these are vlans that don't really talk to each other much. The networks/vlans that do a lot of intervlan talking are on their own physical interfaces

      If you don't have enough networks to justify all the interfaces, and you just don't like them sitting there idle - put them in a lagg and run all your vlans over the lagg.

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        cloudroot @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz LAGGs... That is something that I hadn't even considered. This would probably "solve" the eye-sore of having many unused ports.

        I will do some reading on LAGG now :)

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          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @cloudroot
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          @cloudroot said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

          It just irks me then that I'll have many ports on the 6100 that are there and not being used at all. So they are then quite redundant.

          Sure but it's a router, not a switch. Bridges are good for specific needs but your performance will suffer from pulling CPU cycles away to be a packet switcher instead of a packet filter.

          psSense just doesn't have the same ring to it. 😸

          Ryan
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            cloudroot @rcoleman-netgate
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            @rcoleman-netgate I'm (at the moment) willing to sacrifice CPU cycles, since I have them to spare. But the suggestion of using LAGG, was a good one. And I'm in the process of reading up on it.

            Comming from 10+ years of Mikrotik, and pfSense is doing things differently. Some way more than others. But it's fun to learn something new.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @cloudroot
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              @cloudroot said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

              Comming from 10+ years of Mikrotik

              do they have switch ports? Would never in a million years choose to bridge anything other than say wifi to wire.. Or if my router had say had a optical interface and my switch didn't.. And I needed to have a optical connection into my copper network.. But it would only be long enough to either get a sfp/sfp+ for my switch, or a media converter.. I sure wouldn't bridge interfaces on my router because I just didn't have another use for them ;) And didn't like them sitting there empty...

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                Jarhead @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

                @cloudroot said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

                Comming from 10+ years of Mikrotik

                And didn't like them sitting there empty...

                Exactly what I was thinking... Can't understand how unused ports are an eye-sore.

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                  rcoleman-netgate Netgate @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

                  Would never in a million years choose to bridge anything other than say wifi to wire

                  And even then... I might not... I've been there and it wasn't pretty. Biggest PITB I ever did. Eventually I had them buy their own 5-port VLAN-capable switch and bundled them all together.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Jarhead
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                    @jarhead said in Bridge of LAN1-4 untagged (unifi), with tagged VLANs (no switch):

                    Can't understand how unused ports are an eye-sore.

                    If they bother you buy some rj45 plugs ;)

                    plugs.jpg

                    They sell all kinds of them you can get a bag of 50 for a few bucks, etc. They help keep the dust out as well ;)

                    If anything I would get a bit antsy if I didn't have a few free ports available - what if I need to add something, and I don't have a few free ports ;)

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                      OpIT GmbH @cloudroot
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                      @cloudroot
                      Are you able to use LAGGS for you Scenario? We are also coming from Mikrotik and we often used to bridge all Ports and then add VLAN's on that Bridge...

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                        cloudroot @OpIT GmbH
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                        @opit-gmbh Well, I've now fallen down the rabbit hole of designen a way to overkill homelab. So it's gonna take a while for me to decide on the server hardware. After that is done, I'll look through the options for switches and such.. Things being what they are, this is probably gonna take months. But I'm in no hurry right now.

                        But if I were to do it right now. I'd probably group the two 10Gbe ports, and combine them and have an affordable Mikrotik as downlink.

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