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    Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v

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      vbjp @Bob.Dig
      last edited by vbjp

      @bob-dig
      Gen2 vm yes?

      Screenshot (2).png

      Frozen on this screen
      2 different hosts 2 different pfsense vm installs broken

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        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vbjp
        last edited by Bob.Dig

        @vbjp said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

        @bob-dig
        Gen2 vm yes?

        Yep. ZFS here too on WinServer2022.

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          vbjp @Bob.Dig
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          @bob-dig said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

          @vbjp said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

          @bob-dig
          Gen2 vm yes?

          Yep. ZFS here too on WinServer2022.

          Strange after taking screenshot could not get vm to boot at all, even with console closed. rolled back to 22.05 snapshot, considering 22.05 really bad network performance on Hyper-v, will have to think something else.

          Anyone have any ideas what could be the issue here?

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          • Bob.DigB
            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vbjp
            last edited by

            @vbjp 22.05 "already" had the fix for the hyper-v networking problem (RSC).

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              vbjp @Bob.Dig
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              @bob-dig said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

              @vbjp 22.05 "already" had the fix for the hyper-v networking problem (RSC).

              Will test when I have more time.
              Still there is some bug in 23.01 that making it fail boot on Hyper-v.
              Not sure what is different with your setup.

              I had crazy upgrade path to plus (partially because no isos) maybe that's messed something up.

              Upgrade was 2.5>2.6>2.7dev then tried to upgrade to plus 23.01 as beta released but it failed. After upgrade from 2.7dev to 22.01 plus (no detect path to 23.01) vm jus boot cycles few times and shuts off. Then reinstalled 2.6 on top from iso an had to wait 24 hours as netgate seem to limit frequent upgrades from same Id. Then upgraded to 22.01>22.05 and finally 23.01 beta. It booted fine after upgrade and even had few reboots. But now it's failing.

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                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vbjp
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                @vbjp One problem I have encountered lately is that I can not have MAC address spoofing enabled. It was once advised by MS to have that enabled but it made terrible problems here but not yours. Maybe have an eye on that too.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Moving from 2.7 to 22.01 is invalid. That is effectively a downgrade which is can cause problems.

                  It may be possible to upgrade from 2.7 once 23.01 is released since both are FreeBSD main (14) based.

                  I would expect that to work after reinstalling 2.6 though.

                  If you have issues pulling the certs too frequently you can open a ticket with us to reset it.

                  Steve

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                    I can't replicate any problems on 23.01 RC using ZFS with Hyper-V here. Installs clean and boots fine afterward with UEFI.

                    VM was configured by following the recipe in the docs:

                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/virtualize-hyper-v.html

                    This is on a Windows 10 host (22H2)

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                      vbjp @jimp
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                      @jimp
                      Did fresh install of 2.6 and upgraded to latest 23.01 beta. Same problem. Reproducible everytime on my 2 systems running windows 2022 server.
                      Vm setup
                      Gen2 secure boot disabled
                      2gb ram (static), 1core. 2xnetwork adapters wan to nic SW and lan to private SW. 30gb drive plus DVD for install. Installed default 2.6 settings zfs etc. Min initial setup.

                      Screenshot (3).png

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Does FreeBSD 14 install and boot correctly there?

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Did you go from 2.6 to 22.01, then to 22.05, and then 23.01? Or straight from 22.01 to 23.01?

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                          • jimpJ
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                            last edited by jimp

                            I couldn't go from 22.01 to 23.01 directly, but going from 22.01 to 22.05 to 23.01 each step worked and boots UEFI and ZFS properly with a working console.

                            I did this both by starting at 22.01 directly and by starting at 2.6, doing the plus upgrade to 22.01, then 22.05, then 23.01. Both paths succeeded, no problems encountered.

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                              vbjp @stephenw10
                              last edited by vbjp

                              @stephenw10
                              Installed freebsd 14 on same host booted successfully. Rebooted few times no problems (vm settings basically same, just one network adapter)

                              Screenshot (4).png

                              Upgrade path for my pfsense was install 2.6ce from iso next get the id and register then upgrade to plus 22.01 then 22.05 then to beta 23.01.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                We managed to replicate this locally and are investigating. So far it's not obvious what the difference is that triggers it.
                                You might try installing as UFS, in our tests that boots fine which seems like a big clue!

                                There's a bug open for it:
                                https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13895

                                Steve

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                                  andrew_241
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                                  I'm having the same problem. In case it may be of help, here is a dump of my VMCX configuration file, with the server name and VMCX filename removed:

                                  [Server]: PS C:\> $tempVM = (Compare-VM -Copy -Path "{Path to .vmcx}" -GenerateNewID).VM
                                  [Server]: PS C:\> $tempVM | select *
                                  
                                  
                                  ParentCheckpointId                  :
                                  ParentCheckpointName                :
                                  VMName                              : pfSense Router and Firewall
                                  VMId                                : dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362
                                  CheckpointFileLocation              : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                                  ConfigurationLocation               : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                                  SmartPagingFileInUse                : False
                                  SmartPagingFilePath                 : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                                  SnapshotFileLocation                : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                                  AutomaticStartAction                : Start
                                  AutomaticStartDelay                 : 0
                                  AutomaticStopAction                 : ShutDown
                                  AutomaticCriticalErrorAction        : Pause
                                  AutomaticCriticalErrorActionTimeout : 30
                                  AutomaticCheckpointsEnabled         : False
                                  CPUUsage                            : 0
                                  MemoryAssigned                      : 0
                                  MemoryDemand                        : 0
                                  MemoryStatus                        :
                                  NumaAligned                         :
                                  NumaNodesCount                      :
                                  NumaSocketCount                     :
                                  Heartbeat                           :
                                  IntegrationServicesState            :
                                  IntegrationServicesVersion          : 0.0
                                  Uptime                              : 00:00:00
                                  OperationalStatus                   : {Ok}
                                  PrimaryOperationalStatus            : Ok
                                  SecondaryOperationalStatus          :
                                  StatusDescriptions                  : {Operating normally}
                                  PrimaryStatusDescription            : Operating normally
                                  SecondaryStatusDescription          :
                                  Status                              : Operating normally
                                  ReplicationHealth                   : Normal
                                  ReplicationMode                     : None
                                  ReplicationState                    : Disabled
                                  ResourceMeteringEnabled             : False
                                  CheckpointType                      : Production
                                  EnhancedSessionTransportType        : VMBus
                                  Groups                              :
                                  Version                             : 10.0
                                  VirtualMachineType                  : PlannedVirtualMachine
                                  VirtualMachineSubType               : Generation2
                                  Notes                               :
                                  State                               : Off
                                  ComPort1                            : VMComPort (Name = 'COM 1', VMName = 'pfSense Router and Firewall') [Id = 'Microso
                                                                        ft:DCFE7A58-EADD-4D11-B5EC-FF674DB02362\8E3A359F-559A-4B6A-98A9-1690A6100ED7\0',
                                                                        VMId = 'dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362']
                                  ComPort2                            : VMComPort (Name = 'COM 2', VMName = 'pfSense Router and Firewall') [Id = 'Microso
                                                                        ft:DCFE7A58-EADD-4D11-B5EC-FF674DB02362\8E3A359F-559A-4B6A-98A9-1690A6100ED7\1',
                                                                        VMId = 'dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362']
                                  DVDDrives                           : {DVD Drive on SCSI controller number 0 at location 1}
                                  FibreChannelHostBusAdapters         : {}
                                  FloppyDrive                         :
                                  HardDrives                          : {Hard Drive on SCSI controller number 0 at location 0}
                                  RemoteFxAdapter                     :
                                  VMIntegrationService                : {Guest Service Interface, Heartbeat, Key-Value Pair Exchange, Shutdown...}
                                  DynamicMemoryEnabled                : False
                                  MemoryMaximum                       : 1099511627776
                                  MemoryMinimum                       : 536870912
                                  MemoryStartup                       : 8589934592
                                  ProcessorCount                      : 8
                                  BatteryPassthroughEnabled           : False
                                  Generation                          : 2
                                  IsClustered                         : False
                                  ParentSnapshotId                    :
                                  ParentSnapshotName                  :
                                  Path                                : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                                  SizeOfSystemFiles                   : 45090
                                  GuestControlledCacheTypes           : False
                                  LowMemoryMappedIoSpace              : 134217728
                                  HighMemoryMappedIoSpace             : 536870912
                                  HighMemoryMappedIoBaseAddress       : 68182605824
                                  LockOnDisconnect                    : Off
                                  CreationTime                        : 1/25/2023 4:17:00 PM
                                  Id                                  : dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362
                                  Name                                : pfSense Router and Firewall
                                  NetworkAdapters                     : {Network Adapter, Network Adapter}
                                  CimSession                          : CimSession: .
                                  ComputerName                        : SERVER
                                  IsDeleted                           : False
                                  

                                  Perhaps someone can compare this output to theirs if they have a functioning install of the 23.01 beta in Hyper-V on Windows Server 2022.

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @andrew_241
                                    last edited by jimp

                                    @andrew_241 said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

                                    Version : 10.0

                                    The only real difference I see is mine that work are version 11.0, not version 10.0.

                                    Can you stop the VM, and in the Hyper-V manager select Actions > Upgrade Configuration Version so it gets updated to 11.0?

                                    I don't know about Hyper-V but we see things like that all the time in ESX where newer FreeBSD versions will tickle some behavior that either needs a newer VM config version or newer OS selected.

                                    That may only be on Windows 11, though. My Windows 10 box is powered off at the moment so I can't double check that until tomorrow.

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                                      andrew_241 @jimp
                                      last edited by

                                      @jimp

                                      For Windows Server 2022, the maximum configuration version is 10.0. I typed this in in PowerShell:

                                      [Server]: PS C:\> Update-VMVersion "pfSense Router and Firewall"
                                      
                                      Confirm
                                      Are you sure you want to perform this action?
                                      Performing a configuration version update of "pfSense Router and Firewall" will prevent it from being migrated to or
                                      imported on previous versions of Windows. This operation is not reversible.
                                      
                                      [Y] Yes  [A] Yes to All  [N] No  [L] No to All  [?] Help (default is "Y"): y
                                      WARNING: No update was performed for the virtual machine "pfSense Router and Firewall" because its configuration
                                      version is already at the maximum level supported by this server.  For clustered servers, the maximum supported
                                      configuration version can be limited by the cluster functional level.
                                      
                                      
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                                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @andrew_241
                                        last edited by Bob.Dig

                                        @andrew_241 10 working fine here.

                                        Interesting.
                                        Maybe MS is just doing MS things and it depends on the age of your Windows Installation and what not... I have problems running a service in a debian VM in Hyper-V, I always have to boot it twice.

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                                          vbjp @Bob.Dig
                                          last edited by vbjp

                                          @bob-dig
                                          Only consumer version Hyper-v on win 11 support version 11 Windows server even 2022 is on version 10. Enterprise is always slow with latest versions. Server 2019 is stuck on 9.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Anyone hitting this able to confirm it only affects ZFS installs?

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