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    Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v

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      vbjp @Bob.Dig
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      @bob-dig said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

      @vbjp 22.05 "already" had the fix for the hyper-v networking problem (RSC).

      Will test when I have more time.
      Still there is some bug in 23.01 that making it fail boot on Hyper-v.
      Not sure what is different with your setup.

      I had crazy upgrade path to plus (partially because no isos) maybe that's messed something up.

      Upgrade was 2.5>2.6>2.7dev then tried to upgrade to plus 23.01 as beta released but it failed. After upgrade from 2.7dev to 22.01 plus (no detect path to 23.01) vm jus boot cycles few times and shuts off. Then reinstalled 2.6 on top from iso an had to wait 24 hours as netgate seem to limit frequent upgrades from same Id. Then upgraded to 22.01>22.05 and finally 23.01 beta. It booted fine after upgrade and even had few reboots. But now it's failing.

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        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vbjp
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        @vbjp One problem I have encountered lately is that I can not have MAC address spoofing enabled. It was once advised by MS to have that enabled but it made terrible problems here but not yours. Maybe have an eye on that too.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Moving from 2.7 to 22.01 is invalid. That is effectively a downgrade which is can cause problems.

          It may be possible to upgrade from 2.7 once 23.01 is released since both are FreeBSD main (14) based.

          I would expect that to work after reinstalling 2.6 though.

          If you have issues pulling the certs too frequently you can open a ticket with us to reset it.

          Steve

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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            I can't replicate any problems on 23.01 RC using ZFS with Hyper-V here. Installs clean and boots fine afterward with UEFI.

            VM was configured by following the recipe in the docs:

            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/virtualize-hyper-v.html

            This is on a Windows 10 host (22H2)

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              vbjp @jimp
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              @jimp
              Did fresh install of 2.6 and upgraded to latest 23.01 beta. Same problem. Reproducible everytime on my 2 systems running windows 2022 server.
              Vm setup
              Gen2 secure boot disabled
              2gb ram (static), 1core. 2xnetwork adapters wan to nic SW and lan to private SW. 30gb drive plus DVD for install. Installed default 2.6 settings zfs etc. Min initial setup.

              Screenshot (3).png

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Does FreeBSD 14 install and boot correctly there?

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Did you go from 2.6 to 22.01, then to 22.05, and then 23.01? Or straight from 22.01 to 23.01?

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by jimp

                    I couldn't go from 22.01 to 23.01 directly, but going from 22.01 to 22.05 to 23.01 each step worked and boots UEFI and ZFS properly with a working console.

                    I did this both by starting at 22.01 directly and by starting at 2.6, doing the plus upgrade to 22.01, then 22.05, then 23.01. Both paths succeeded, no problems encountered.

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                      vbjp @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10
                      Installed freebsd 14 on same host booted successfully. Rebooted few times no problems (vm settings basically same, just one network adapter)

                      Screenshot (4).png

                      Upgrade path for my pfsense was install 2.6ce from iso next get the id and register then upgrade to plus 22.01 then 22.05 then to beta 23.01.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        We managed to replicate this locally and are investigating. So far it's not obvious what the difference is that triggers it.
                        You might try installing as UFS, in our tests that boots fine which seems like a big clue!

                        There's a bug open for it:
                        https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13895

                        Steve

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                          andrew_241
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                          I'm having the same problem. In case it may be of help, here is a dump of my VMCX configuration file, with the server name and VMCX filename removed:

                          [Server]: PS C:\> $tempVM = (Compare-VM -Copy -Path "{Path to .vmcx}" -GenerateNewID).VM
                          [Server]: PS C:\> $tempVM | select *
                          
                          
                          ParentCheckpointId                  :
                          ParentCheckpointName                :
                          VMName                              : pfSense Router and Firewall
                          VMId                                : dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362
                          CheckpointFileLocation              : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                          ConfigurationLocation               : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                          SmartPagingFileInUse                : False
                          SmartPagingFilePath                 : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                          SnapshotFileLocation                : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                          AutomaticStartAction                : Start
                          AutomaticStartDelay                 : 0
                          AutomaticStopAction                 : ShutDown
                          AutomaticCriticalErrorAction        : Pause
                          AutomaticCriticalErrorActionTimeout : 30
                          AutomaticCheckpointsEnabled         : False
                          CPUUsage                            : 0
                          MemoryAssigned                      : 0
                          MemoryDemand                        : 0
                          MemoryStatus                        :
                          NumaAligned                         :
                          NumaNodesCount                      :
                          NumaSocketCount                     :
                          Heartbeat                           :
                          IntegrationServicesState            :
                          IntegrationServicesVersion          : 0.0
                          Uptime                              : 00:00:00
                          OperationalStatus                   : {Ok}
                          PrimaryOperationalStatus            : Ok
                          SecondaryOperationalStatus          :
                          StatusDescriptions                  : {Operating normally}
                          PrimaryStatusDescription            : Operating normally
                          SecondaryStatusDescription          :
                          Status                              : Operating normally
                          ReplicationHealth                   : Normal
                          ReplicationMode                     : None
                          ReplicationState                    : Disabled
                          ResourceMeteringEnabled             : False
                          CheckpointType                      : Production
                          EnhancedSessionTransportType        : VMBus
                          Groups                              :
                          Version                             : 10.0
                          VirtualMachineType                  : PlannedVirtualMachine
                          VirtualMachineSubType               : Generation2
                          Notes                               :
                          State                               : Off
                          ComPort1                            : VMComPort (Name = 'COM 1', VMName = 'pfSense Router and Firewall') [Id = 'Microso
                                                                ft:DCFE7A58-EADD-4D11-B5EC-FF674DB02362\8E3A359F-559A-4B6A-98A9-1690A6100ED7\0',
                                                                VMId = 'dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362']
                          ComPort2                            : VMComPort (Name = 'COM 2', VMName = 'pfSense Router and Firewall') [Id = 'Microso
                                                                ft:DCFE7A58-EADD-4D11-B5EC-FF674DB02362\8E3A359F-559A-4B6A-98A9-1690A6100ED7\1',
                                                                VMId = 'dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362']
                          DVDDrives                           : {DVD Drive on SCSI controller number 0 at location 1}
                          FibreChannelHostBusAdapters         : {}
                          FloppyDrive                         :
                          HardDrives                          : {Hard Drive on SCSI controller number 0 at location 0}
                          RemoteFxAdapter                     :
                          VMIntegrationService                : {Guest Service Interface, Heartbeat, Key-Value Pair Exchange, Shutdown...}
                          DynamicMemoryEnabled                : False
                          MemoryMaximum                       : 1099511627776
                          MemoryMinimum                       : 536870912
                          MemoryStartup                       : 8589934592
                          ProcessorCount                      : 8
                          BatteryPassthroughEnabled           : False
                          Generation                          : 2
                          IsClustered                         : False
                          ParentSnapshotId                    :
                          ParentSnapshotName                  :
                          Path                                : C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V
                          SizeOfSystemFiles                   : 45090
                          GuestControlledCacheTypes           : False
                          LowMemoryMappedIoSpace              : 134217728
                          HighMemoryMappedIoSpace             : 536870912
                          HighMemoryMappedIoBaseAddress       : 68182605824
                          LockOnDisconnect                    : Off
                          CreationTime                        : 1/25/2023 4:17:00 PM
                          Id                                  : dcfe7a58-eadd-4d11-b5ec-ff674db02362
                          Name                                : pfSense Router and Firewall
                          NetworkAdapters                     : {Network Adapter, Network Adapter}
                          CimSession                          : CimSession: .
                          ComputerName                        : SERVER
                          IsDeleted                           : False
                          

                          Perhaps someone can compare this output to theirs if they have a functioning install of the 23.01 beta in Hyper-V on Windows Server 2022.

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                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @andrew_241
                            last edited by jimp

                            @andrew_241 said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

                            Version : 10.0

                            The only real difference I see is mine that work are version 11.0, not version 10.0.

                            Can you stop the VM, and in the Hyper-V manager select Actions > Upgrade Configuration Version so it gets updated to 11.0?

                            I don't know about Hyper-V but we see things like that all the time in ESX where newer FreeBSD versions will tickle some behavior that either needs a newer VM config version or newer OS selected.

                            That may only be on Windows 11, though. My Windows 10 box is powered off at the moment so I can't double check that until tomorrow.

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                              andrew_241 @jimp
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                              @jimp

                              For Windows Server 2022, the maximum configuration version is 10.0. I typed this in in PowerShell:

                              [Server]: PS C:\> Update-VMVersion "pfSense Router and Firewall"
                              
                              Confirm
                              Are you sure you want to perform this action?
                              Performing a configuration version update of "pfSense Router and Firewall" will prevent it from being migrated to or
                              imported on previous versions of Windows. This operation is not reversible.
                              
                              [Y] Yes  [A] Yes to All  [N] No  [L] No to All  [?] Help (default is "Y"): y
                              WARNING: No update was performed for the virtual machine "pfSense Router and Firewall" because its configuration
                              version is already at the maximum level supported by this server.  For clustered servers, the maximum supported
                              configuration version can be limited by the cluster functional level.
                              
                              
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                                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @andrew_241
                                last edited by Bob.Dig

                                @andrew_241 10 working fine here.

                                Interesting.
                                Maybe MS is just doing MS things and it depends on the age of your Windows Installation and what not... I have problems running a service in a debian VM in Hyper-V, I always have to boot it twice.

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                                  vbjp @Bob.Dig
                                  last edited by vbjp

                                  @bob-dig
                                  Only consumer version Hyper-v on win 11 support version 11 Windows server even 2022 is on version 10. Enterprise is always slow with latest versions. Server 2019 is stuck on 9.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Anyone hitting this able to confirm it only affects ZFS installs?

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                                    • jimpJ
                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      I was wondering about the VM version, but I guess that confirms it. I'd hoped it was just the default being 10 on the older platforms but they could still support the higher one. But that was likely just a red herring anyway since others are working on 10.

                                      I've tried changing my VM in various ways to be similar to the problem one above (higher CPU count, more RAM, dynamic memory on/off, etc.) but nothing so far has made it fail. It boots up perfectly no matter what I do here.

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                                        andrew_241 @Bob.Dig
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                                        @bob-dig

                                        I may try with a fresh install of Windows Server 2022 when 23.01 is released.

                                        I'm curious; my VM configuration dump says the VM has two COM ports, but Hyper-V doesn't pass the physical one I have to the VMs - third party software is required for that. This isn't exposed in the Hyper-V Manager GUI. Does your VMCX configuration file show ComPort1 and ComPort2?

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                                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @andrew_241
                                          last edited by Bob.Dig

                                          @andrew_241 said in Latest pfsense+ 23.01 beta freezes on Hyper-v:

                                          Does your VMCX configuration file show ComPort1 and ComPort2?

                                          I can't tell because I don't know any of the syntax of you command. I am just an advanced home user, don't know nothing about powershell etc.

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                            My VM config that works also shows the COM ports, so that's unlikely to be related.

                                            One of our TAC crew who could reproduce this noticed that they could get theirs to boot if they removed the DVD drive from the VM, so that's something else to try.

                                            Mine works with the DVD drive attached (and with no media mounted). Theirs appeared to be set the same but failed until they removed it.

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