php shell commands not working - openvpn id needed

[Cloudless Smart Home]

trying to learn to use the php shell. how do I find the id of things like rules or in this case the openvpn id?

Netgate pfSense Plus shell: playback svc stop openvpn server 0

Playback of file svc started.

No OpenVPN client or server found with that ID.
Netgate pfSense Plus shell: 

[heper]

@appleguy

less /conf/config.xml | grep -B 1 -A 8 vpnid

[Cloudless Smart Home]

@heper nice!