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    • Cloudless Smart HomeC
      Cloudless Smart Home
      last edited by

      23.01 upgrade has been a real dumpster fire. this system has been so stable on 22.05. not one crash in over a year running, and now, not only does it kernel panic when trying to rename the previous boot environment, but I can't even run 22.05 anymore because packages are all out of date, and there seems to be no way to install or use any packages because they are all for 23.01 now. this is totally unbelievable. after it crashes, the only way to get it back up is connecting a console cable, because it seems to be getting stuck rebooting too. at least I'm not running this mess on anything other than a home lab, because if this was on a customers network, I would be totally screwed right now.

      my hardware: Protectli Vault FW2B - 2 Port, Firewall Micro Appliance/Mini PC - Intel Dual Core, AES-NI, 8GB RAM, 120GB mSATA SSD

      I have asked this question before and not gotten an answer. does anyone at negate want my crash log?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Yes, lets see the log.

        What does it show on the console when you connect? What do you do to reboot it?

        The 22.05 packages are all still present. Just set the upgrade repo to 'Previous stable version (22.05)'.

        Steve

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        • Cloudless Smart HomeC
          Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
          last edited by Cloudless Smart Home

          @stephenw10 I don't really want to post it because I don't know how much private info that it contains. can I send it to you?

          I am running zfs, so I can just reboot to the 22.05 boot environment. I have the console connected through a terminal emulator that doesn't initialize it display until I hit the enter key, so it is always progressing through the boot when I connect, but no way to know where it was stuck when I connected the terminal. right now, I am still sticking with 23.01 but keeping the terminal connected so I can keep watch on it.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by rcoleman-netgate

            Sure, upload it here: [URL Removed]

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            • Cloudless Smart HomeC
              Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 thanks, I added some notes above. was editing when you replied. I have also unintalled pfblockerng, because it seemed likely that it's causing problems and always causing me trouble.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                That's only the header, do you have the full crash report?

                The panic is interesting though:

                  Panic String: spin lock held too long
                

                That was when you attempted to rename a boot environment snap?

                Steve

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                • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                  Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                  last edited by Cloudless Smart Home

                  @stephenw10 yes last crash was cleaning up the boot env name after upgrade. how can I get the rest?

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    I would expect to see a much larger tar file presented in the gui. Unless it was remoevd it should be in /var/crash.

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                    • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                      Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                      last edited by Cloudless Smart Home

                      @stephenw10 I deleted it then, I was given 2 options, download tar file or file, and I downloaded the file. didn't realize that might be less info. nothing in /var/crash. it seems you have to delete it to get rid of the banner message.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Ah, unfortunate. Well you could try to trigger it again. That would prove its not something difficult to repeat. I'll try to replicate it here.

                        Steve

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          What were you renaming it to?

                          It works as expected for simply renaming the BE. On my test box at least.

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                          • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                            Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                            last edited by Cloudless Smart Home

                            @stephenw10 I noticed that the name actually stuck after the crash / reboot. renamed to 23_01-working. have since renamed it to 23_01-crashing, and no crash this time.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              It could have been coincidental. Looking at previous similar panics they are all in pf and nothing to do with ZFS or the filesystem at all.
                              If you see it again we'd love to review it.

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                              • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                                Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                                last edited by Cloudless Smart Home

                                @stephenw10 woke up to crashed pfsense again, and still won't boot after a crash without console connected. I have a much larger textdump file if I can send it to you again, would appreciate you looking at it. I see openvpn going up and down. its there any chance this could be affecting it...

                                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/177491/automatically-start-openvpn-server-when-my-phone-is-not-on-home-wifi-project-writeup?_=1677335639800

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Sure if you can upload the full crashdump here I can review it:
                                  https://nc.netgate.com/nextcloud/s/WEJQTXincHFo884

                                  Steve

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                                  • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                                    Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 thanks. ok, uploaded. thanks. maybe I need to contact protectli about bios settings or something preventing it from rebooting unattended after a crash. I suspect it's doing something like windows does after a major crash and is asking whether to boot normally or not, but since it's a major pain when the internet is out, I just plug in the console cable and hit enter on the blank screen, and it boots.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10

                                      Ah the backtrace may be telling here:

                                      db:1:pfs> bt
                                      Tracing pid 63462 tid 100268 td 0xfffffe00d2cbb720
                                      kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00d2a704e0
                                      vpanic() at vpanic+0x182/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70530
                                      panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70590
                                      _mtx_lock_indefinite_check() at _mtx_lock_indefinite_check+0x68/frame 0xfffffe00d2a705a0
                                      _mtx_lock_spin_cookie() at _mtx_lock_spin_cookie+0xd5/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70610
                                      uart_cnputc() at uart_cnputc+0xaf/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70640
                                      cnputc() at cnputc+0x4c/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70670
                                      cnputsn() at cnputsn+0x6a/frame 0xfffffe00d2a706b0
                                      putchar() at putchar+0x14a/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70740
                                      kvprintf() at kvprintf+0xf5/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70860
                                      _vprintf() at _vprintf+0x8c/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70950
                                      printf() at printf+0x53/frame 0xfffffe00d2a709b0
                                      trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x280/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70a10
                                      trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70a70
                                      calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70a70
                                      --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f9352c, rsp = 0xfffffe00d2a70b40, rbp = 0xfffffe00d2a70b70 ---
                                      X_ip_mrouter_done() at X_ip_mrouter_done+0x31c/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70b70
                                      rip_detach() at rip_detach+0x3f/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70ba0
                                      sorele_locked() at sorele_locked+0x89/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70bc0
                                      soclose() at soclose+0xeb/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70c20
                                      _fdrop() at _fdrop+0x11/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70c40
                                      closef() at closef+0x24b/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70cd0
                                      fdescfree() at fdescfree+0x4b3/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70d90
                                      
                                      --Exceeded input buffer--
                                      exit1() at exit1+0x4c7/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70df0
                                      sys_exit() at sys_exit+0xd/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70e00
                                      amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x10c/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70f30
                                      fast_syscall_common() at fast_syscall_common+0xf8/frame 0xfffffe00d2a70f30
                                      --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_exit), rip = 0x8233c886a, rsp = 0x820ca3bd8, rbp = 0x820ca3bf0 ---
                                      

                                      And the panic:

                                      Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
                                      cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
                                      fault virtual address	= 0x0
                                      fault code		= supervisor read data, page not present
                                      instruction pointer	= 0x20:0xffffffff80f9352c
                                      stack pointer	        = 0x28:0xfffffe00d2a70b40
                                      frame pointer	        = 0x28:0xfffffe00d2a70b70
                                      code segment		= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                                      			= DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1
                                      processor eflags	= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
                                      ns8250: UART FCR is broken
                                      spin lock 0xfffff80001a9ec40 (uart_hwmtx) held by 0xfffffe0010cf6e40 (tid 100006) too long
                                      panic: spin lock held too long
                                      cpuid = 0
                                      time = 1677315261
                                      KDB: enter: panic
                                      

                                      And this could certainly be why it doesn't reboot. It looks like something is continually sending data to the UART console perhaps. That would interrupt the boot. What consoles do you have connected there and what are they connected to?

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                                      • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                                        Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 this router is in my basement, so I have a console cable plugged in with an ethernet extension on the other end and nothing plugged in to the upstairs side, unless it goes down. don't know if that sounds clear but basically an ethernet cable plugged into the console port but open on the other side, like an extension cord. then, after a crash, I plug into that cable with a usb console cable and plug into my mac and open my terminal emulator program. do I need to go to the router and unplug the extension cable from the router side? do you think having a console cable plugged in to the protectli and open on the other end could cause this?

                                        btw, the script that I referenced above has a php echo command in it, but that works without errors, so I don't think it shouldn't cause issues. I do have that script set up to run on a cron job every 5 minutes, but pfsense sends lots of info to the terminal in normal operation, so that php echo shouldn't hurt anything, right? did you see in the dump file that openvpn was going up down up down? that concerns me too since my custom script does exactly that.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, I could imagine an unterminated very long console cable could generate enough random noise to send some characters.
                                          Does it reboot normally from the gui with the console in that state? That would no different after a panic.
                                          It may also be that something is generating the interference triggering the panic and then interrupting the reboot and doesn't apply at other times.

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                                          • Cloudless Smart HomeC
                                            Cloudless Smart Home @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10 if you are asking if I can reboot from the gui with that cable plugged in, the answer is yes I can. but for now, I will unplug it on the router side too, just in case. then plug in both sides next time. I also need to just drag a monitor and keyboard down to the basement next time, so I can see what the message on the screen says and hopefully figure out why it hangs after a crash. I saw this post this morning that fed my suspicion that there's a message on the screen after a crash, that just needs to be acknowledged for booting to continue...

                                            https://www.thegeekpub.com/14848/pfsense-hangs-at-booting/

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