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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @empbilly
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      @empbilly What's the subnet mask on the interface? I believe pfSense defaults to /32 not /24.

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        empbilly @SteveITS
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        @steveits

        The interface I am testing is a /27. From what I read in the doc, CARP needs to be in the same mask.

        Subnet 10.10.56.0/27
        CARP 10.10.56.1/27

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          viragomann
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          @empbilly
          Are the CARP VIPs shown as master in Status > CARP?

          If the devices cannot access / ping the VIP even it is permitted by firewall rules, it's possibly a layer 2 issue.
          Check if the CARP VIPs are shown up in the devices ARP table.

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            empbilly @viragomann
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            @viragomann said in GW configuration - some questions:

            Are the CARP VIPs shown as master in Status > CARP?

            yes

            @viragomann said in GW configuration - some questions:

            Check if the CARP VIPs are shown up in the devices ARP table.

            None appears.

            @viragomann said in GW configuration - some questions:

            If the devices cannot access / ping the VIP even it is permitted by firewall rules, it's possibly a layer 2 issue.

            They are connected to a dell N1524 switch with 4 ports in lag + dynamic lacp.

            Do you have any direction regarding this layer 2 problem?

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              viragomann
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              @empbilly
              Sniff the traffic for the ARP communication.
              If you try to ping the CARP VIP from a device it broadcasts an ARP request at first if the IP isn't in itsARP table yet. This request should be seen on all NICs in the layer 2 network.
              Maybe you can capture the packets on the switch ports.

              The CARP MAC address is somewhat 00:00:5e:00:01:XX. The last byte is the VHID. Hence the VHID must be unique within a L2.

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                empbilly @viragomann
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                @viragomann

                sw-core

                IP Address       MAC Address        Interface       Type      Age
                ---------------  -----------------  --------------  --------  -----------
                172.16.0.1       0000.5E00.0113     Vl1             Gateway    0h 12m 10s
                ...
                172.18.0.254     0000.5E00.0118     Vl900           Gateway    0h  7m 27s
                250.251.252.254  0202.BC80.0002     Management      Dynamic   n/a
                

                I accessed the SW where pfmaster is connected via lag and below are the only ARPs referring to the GW CARP.

                Vlan1 (DEFAULT) and vlan900 (GERENCIA - management vlan of our switches)

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                Any clue?

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                  viragomann @empbilly
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                  @empbilly
                  As suggested, sniff the ARP traffic to find out more about the problem.
                  I suspect, ARP requests for the CARP VIP from devices behind the switch do not arrive at pfSense. Hence the device cannot get an ARP info for it.

                  There are devices which don't like different MAC addresses on a single port by default. But this is how CARP and VRRP works. Maybe your switch is concerned of this. If so there might be a setting to allow it, however.

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                    empbilly @viragomann
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                    @viragomann

                    This switch has the VRRP protocol for configuration. Knowing this, we can conclude that it supports CARP?

                    I just didn't find anything about this model or series that talks about CARP.

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                      viragomann @empbilly
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                      @empbilly
                      The switch has nothing to do with CARP as long as he is working only on layer 2. For a working CARP, the switch only needs to support full layer 2.
                      The same is true for ARP.
                      If CARP wasn't working due to the protocol is not passing the switch, both nodes would show master status.

                      But that it supports VRRP means that the device is layer 3 capable. This could impact the ARP protocol though.
                      But without sniffing the traffic, you are in the dark here.

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                        empbilly @viragomann
                        last edited by empbilly

                        @viragomann

                        I am not at work these days, but I logged in remotely and checked the following output:

                        sw-core2#show mac address-table interface port-channel 1 | include 0000.5E00
                        
                        1        0000.5E00.0113        Dynamic     Po1
                        25       0000.5E00.0102        Dynamic     Po1
                        26       0000.5E00.0101        Dynamic     Po1
                        40       0000.5E00.0111        Dynamic     Po1
                        50       0000.5E00.010E        Dynamic     Po1
                        51       0000.5E00.010F        Dynamic     Po1
                        53       0000.5E00.0112        Dynamic     Po1
                        77       0000.5E00.0115        Dynamic     Po1
                        200      0000.5E00.0104        Dynamic     Po1
                        301      0000.5E00.0105        Dynamic     Po1
                        302      0000.5E00.0106        Dynamic     Po1
                        303      0000.5E00.0107        Dynamic     Po1
                        304      0000.5E00.0108        Dynamic     Po1
                        305      0000.5E00.0109        Dynamic     Po1
                        306      0000.5E00.010A        Dynamic     Po1
                        307      0000.5E00.010B        Dynamic     Po1
                        308      0000.5E00.0116        Dynamic     Po1
                        525      0000.5E00.0114        Dynamic     Po1
                        610      0000.5E00.0117        Dynamic     Po1
                        800      0000.5E00.010C        Dynamic     Po1
                        900      0000.5E00.0118        Dynamic     Po1
                        911      0000.5E00.010D        Dynamic     Po1
                        912      0000.5E00.0110        Dynamic     Po1
                        920      0000.5E00.0119        Dynamic     Po1
                        

                        Doing the conversion, it looks to me like the VHIDs according to vlan.

                        0000.5E00.0113: VHID 19
                        0000.5E00.0102: VHID 2
                        0000.5E00.0101: VHID 1
                        0000.5E00.0111: VHID 17
                        0000.5E00.010E: VHID 14
                        0000.5E00.010F: VHID 15
                        0000.5E00.0112: VHID 18
                        0000.5E00.0115: VHID 21
                        0000.5E00.0104: VHID 4
                        0000.5E00.0105: VHID 5
                        0000.5E00.0106: VHID 6
                        0000.5E00.0107: VHID 7
                        0000.5E00.0108: VHID 8
                        0000.5E00.0109: VHID 9
                        0000.5E00.010A: VHID 10
                        0000.5E00.0116: VHID 22
                        0000.5E00.0114: VHID 20
                        0000.5E00.0117: VHID 23
                        0000.5E00.010C: VHID 12
                        0000.5E00.0118: VHID 24
                        0000.5E00.0110: VHID 16
                        0000.5E00.0119: VHID 25
                        

                        With this information, can we consider that the CARP is passing through the switch, at first? I will still try to sniff the physical interfaces.

                        The only one that doesn't show up is the WAN, which has VHID 3.

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                          empbilly @empbilly
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                          @viragomann

                          I was able to capture the packets.

                          Can you help me analyze the packets? Can I post the file here?

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                            viragomann @empbilly
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                            @empbilly
                            Did you run the capture on VLAN interface set the protocol filter to ARP?
                            So it shouldn't show any public IP. You can hide the MACs if you want.

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                              empbilly @viragomann
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                              @viragomann

                              I capture all packets.
                              https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/pt-br/000184095/dell-emc-networking-os6-series-switches-how-to

                              I scp the .pcap file from the switch to my computer and opened it in wireshark.

                              I couldn't find an option where I could specify the vlan for packet capture.

                              Can it be with all traffic?

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                                viragomann @empbilly
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                                @empbilly said in GW configuration - some questions:

                                I couldn't find an option where I could specify the vlan for packet capture.

                                This should be possible in the capture configuration. Isn't there any interface setting?

                                Can it be with all traffic?

                                Yes.

                                Run the capture on the port which your PC is connected. Start it and try to ping a CARP VIP.
                                If the IP isn't in the PCs ARP table there should be an ARP request and a response in the capture. But presumably it doesn't get a response.

                                Then run a capture on the port which is connected to pfSense to see if the request is passed through.

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                                  empbilly @viragomann
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                                  I have configured VIP CARP of vlan IOT as GW in dhcp. The file below is from a direct capture from pfsense.
                                  packetcapture.cap

                                  @viragomann said in GW configuration - some questions:

                                  Then run a capture on the port which is connected to pfSense to see if the request is passed through.

                                  Tomorrow I will do that part.

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                                    viragomann @empbilly
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                                    @empbilly said in GW configuration - some questions:

                                    I have configured VIP CARP of vlan IOT as GW in dhcp.

                                    And which IP are we lookinf for?

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                                      empbilly @viragomann
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                                      @viragomann

                                      vlan IOT: 10.10.56.0/27
                                      VIP CARP/GW: 10.10.56.1
                                      DHCP server/interface: 10.10.56.2 (pfmaster)

                                      Test from IP: 10.10.56.13

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                                        viragomann @empbilly
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                                        @empbilly
                                        So you can see the ARP requests for the VIP and responses with the CARP MAC.
                                        If these responses reach the device at 10.10.56.13, it should add the MAC to its ARP table.

                                        But obviously there is something going wrong. Even though there are ARP requests and correct responses for the CARP, the VIP is never addressed.

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                                          empbilly @viragomann
                                          last edited by empbilly

                                          @viragomann said in GW configuration - some questions:

                                          Even though there are ARP requests and correct responses for the CARP, the VIP is never addressed.

                                          That is not good!!! :(

                                          Yesterday I tried disabling the IGMP protocol on the switch, but anyway, I still can't get internet access when I configure VIP CARP as GW in DHCP.

                                          I made new packet captures and they seem to say the same thing as the one above that I shared.

                                          I would have to disable IGMP on all the switches in our infrastructure, correct?

                                          EDIT1:
                                          Anyway I disabled IGMP Snooping on the switches connected from our NOC to our office, but it still didn't go. Either they don't support the CARP traffic or there is some configuration to be done.

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                                            viragomann @empbilly
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                                            @empbilly
                                            To you see the ARP responses from 10.10.56.1 also on 10.10.56.13?
                                            And if so, do you see the entry in its ARP table?

                                            If the ARP responses from the VIP reache the device, the issue can't be caused by the switch.

                                            Is it the same result if you try to access a CARP VIP from another device?

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