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      manilx @bmeeks
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      @bmeeks Hi. Updated suricata. Changed run mode to workers.
      Restarted on interface. Doen't start. Tried several times to restart, doesn't.
      Rebooted. Suricata not started.
      reverted to snaphot (updated suricata but not workers mode). Working.

      Netgate 8200max

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        bmeeks @manilx
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        @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

        @bmeeks Hi. Updated suricata. Changed run mode to workers.
        Restarted on interface. Doen't start. Tried several times to restart, doesn't.
        Rebooted. Suricata not started.
        reverted to snaphot (updated suricata but not workers mode). Working.

        Dang! Post the output of the suricata.log file for a failed startup in workers run mode.

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          manilx @bmeeks
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          @bmeeks Will have to boot back to other snapshot and try.

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            manilx @manilx
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            @manilx

            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:21 - <Notice> -- This is Suricata version 6.0.10 RELEASE running in SYSTEM mode
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:21 - <Info> -- CPUs/cores online: 8
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:22 - <Info> -- HTTP memcap: 67108864
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:22 - <Info> -- Netmap: Setting IPS mode
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:22 - <Info> -- fast output device (regular) initialized: alerts.log
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:22 - <Info> -- http-log output device (regular) initialized: http.log
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:24 - <Info> -- 1 rule files processed. 6453 rules successfully loaded, 0 rules failed
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:24 - <Warning> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_EVENT_ENGINE(210)] - can't suppress sid 2260002, gid 1: unknown rule
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:24 - <Info> -- Threshold config parsed: 2 rule(s) found
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:24 - <Info> -- 6453 signatures processed. 910 are IP-only rules, 0 are inspecting packet payload, 5376 inspect application layer, 108 are decoder event only
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:25 - <Info> -- Going to use 8 thread(s)
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:26 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 6] netmap:ix3-0/R@conf:host-rings=8 ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:26 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 7] netmap:ix3^0/T@conf:host-rings=8 ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:26 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 11] netmap:ix3-1/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:26 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 12] netmap:ix3^1/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:26 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 14] netmap:ix3-2/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:27 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 15] netmap:ix3^2/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:27 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 16] netmap:ix3-3/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:27 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 17] netmap:ix3^3/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:27 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 18] netmap:ix3-4/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:28 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 19] netmap:ix3^4/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:28 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 20] netmap:ix3-5/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:28 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 21] netmap:ix3^5/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:28 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 22] netmap:ix3-6/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:28 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 23] netmap:ix3^6/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:29 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 24] netmap:ix3-7/R ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:29 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 25] netmap:ix3^7/T ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:29 - <Info> -- Going to use 8 thread(s)
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:29 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 26] netmap:ix3^0/R@conf:host-rings=8 ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:29 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 27] netmap:ix3-0/T@conf:host-rings=8 ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:30 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 28] netmap:ix3^1/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:30 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 29] netmap:ix3-1/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:30 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 30] netmap:ix3^2/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:31 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 31] netmap:ix3-2/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:31 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 32] netmap:ix3^3/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:31 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 33] netmap:ix3-3/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:31 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 34] netmap:ix3^4/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:31 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 35] netmap:ix3-4/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 36] netmap:ix3^5/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 37] netmap:ix3-5/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_POOL_INIT(66)] - alloc error
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_POOL_INIT(66)] - pool grow failed
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_MEM_ALLOC(1)] - failed to setup/expand stream session pool. Expand stream.memcap?
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 38] netmap:ix3^6/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 39] netmap:ix3-6/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_POOL_INIT(66)] - alloc error
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_POOL_INIT(66)] - pool grow failed
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_MEM_ALLOC(1)] - failed to setup/expand stream session pool. Expand stream.memcap?
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 40] netmap:ix3^7/R ix3^ opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Info> -- devname [fd: 41] netmap:ix3-7/T ix3 opened
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_POOL_INIT(66)] - alloc error
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_POOL_INIT(66)] - pool grow failed
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_MEM_ALLOC(1)] - failed to setup/expand stream session pool. Expand stream.memcap?
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_THREAD_INIT(49)] - thread "W#06-ix3^" failed to initialize: flags 0145
            21/2/2023 -- 20:14:33 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(171)] - Engine initialization failed, aborting...
            

            Netgate 8200max

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              manilx @manilx
              last edited by

              @manilx Also changing back to autofp (when suricata doesn't start any longer) and trying to start on the interface results in it NOT starting.
              Will revert to working snapshot! Not further testing for the time being.

              Netgate 8200max

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                bmeeks @manilx
                last edited by bmeeks

                @manilx:
                Your problem has a simple fix. Using more threads and a high core-count CPU requires more TCP stream-memcap memory be allocated. Go to the FLOW/STREAM tab and increase the amount of Stream Memory Cap under Stream Engine Settings. Try 256 MB and continue increasing in 128 MB or 256 MB chunks until Suricata starts succesfully.

                This line in the log is the problem:

                21/2/2023 -- 20:14:32 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_MEM_ALLOC(1)] - failed to setup/expand stream session pool. Expand stream.memcap?
                

                Likely this is triggered by a change in the 6.0.10 binary upstream. Previously Suricata on pfSense was running the 6.0.8 binary. The default is 128 MB, and that may not be enough with some hardware setups.

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                  bmeeks @manilx
                  last edited by

                  @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

                  @manilx Also changing back to autofp (when suricata doesn't start any longer) and trying to start on the interface results in it NOT starting.
                  Will revert to working snapshot! Not further testing for the time being.

                  I have posted a Release Notes thread for the new Suricata package here: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/178138/suricata-6-0-10_1-update-for-pfsense-plus-23-01-release-notes. You can check it out for details on what has changed.

                  Your startup error is solely due to not having enough TCP stream memory. Raising the Stream Memcap value will fix you up. You were likely already sitting on the edge. This is a not too uncommon occurrence when users have high core-count CPUs.

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                    manilx @bmeeks
                    last edited by

                    @bmeeks OK. Doubled it. Suricata starts. Did speedtest. Can't find any difference from default setting actually (with this unit).

                    Netgate 8200max

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                      bmeeks @manilx
                      last edited by

                      @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

                      @bmeeks OK. Doubled it. Suricata starts. Did speedtest. Can't find any difference from default setting actually (with this unit).

                      Glad it started up. I was pretty confident the Stream Memory increase would fix it.

                      As for speed, if I recall you were already pretty much at link saturation, so not much room for improvement. But now, it should not experience any random stalls. The other Suricata developer and I are pretty confident we found and fixed that problem. It was the same problem that plagued OPNsense as well when using Suricata.

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                        manilx @bmeeks
                        last edited by

                        @bmeeks Awesome!
                        I will report here if I find any further issues.

                        Netgate 8200max

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                          manilx @manilx
                          last edited by

                          @manilx I got this error during the night. Never got this before:

                          pfsense: pfSense.home.lan
                          PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_check_for_rule_updates.php, Line: 820, Message: Uncaught ValueError: gettext(): Argument #1 ($message) is too long in /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_check_for_rule_updates.php:820
                          Stack trace:
                          #0 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_check_for_rule_updates.php(820): gettext('- Snort rules: ...')
                          #1 {main}
                          thrown

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                            bmeeks @manilx
                            last edited by

                            @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

                            @manilx I got this error during the night. Never got this before:

                            pfsense: pfSense.home.lan
                            PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_check_for_rule_updates.php, Line: 820, Message: Uncaught ValueError: gettext(): Argument #1 ($message) is too long in /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_check_for_rule_updates.php:820
                            Stack trace:
                            #0 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_check_for_rule_updates.php(820): gettext('- Snort rules: ...')
                            #1 {main}
                            thrown

                            Hmm... never seen that one pop up before. I will look into it. First guess is something changed in the behavior of the third-party gettext() library used for language translation.

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                              bmeeks @manilx
                              last edited by bmeeks

                              @manilx:
                              One more question, please. Where are you located, and is English perhaps not the primary language there?

                              Trying to figure out why this has not cropped up in neither my testing nor from the testing done by others in the snapshots development cycle.

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                                manilx @bmeeks
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                                @bmeeks I'm located in Portugal. But my pfsense and all config is in english

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                                  manilx @manilx
                                  last edited by

                                  @manilx P.S. And this is new to the latest suricata.

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                                    bmeeks @manilx
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                                    @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

                                    @bmeeks I'm located in Portugal. But my pfsense and all config is in english

                                    So all the displayed text on the firewall is in English as well? What rules packages do you have enabled on the GLOBAL SETTINGS tab? Do you have an Extra Rules downloads added? I will need to reproduce your rules download setup to see if I can duplicate the error.

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                                      bmeeks @manilx
                                      last edited by bmeeks

                                      @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

                                      @manilx P.S. And this is new to the latest suricata.

                                      Yes, but the underlying pfSense GUI subsystem has undergone a huge update from PHP 7.4 to PHP 8.1. That is where all the GUI issues with packages and even pfSense itself are coming from. Thousands of lines of PHP code had to be changed in order to be compatible with PHP 8.1. Some got missed. A lot of stuff showed up and got fixed during the DEVEL snapshot testing, but not always everything. Different users can have unique configurations that trigger a PHP issue with the change to 8.1.

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                                        manilx @bmeeks
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                                        @bmeeks Yes! All in english.
                                        ScreenShot 2023-02-22 at 13.58.11.png

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                                          bmeeks @manilx
                                          last edited by

                                          @manilx said in 6100 SLOW in comparison to Protectli FW6E:

                                          @bmeeks Yes! All in english.
                                          ScreenShot 2023-02-22 at 13.58.11.png

                                          Okay... that helps. So if you enable the Snort Subscriber Rules you get the error. I will try and reproduce in my test virtual machine.

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                                            manilx @bmeeks
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                                            @bmeeks Yes. Just enable and run Update(Force)

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