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    Webserver SSL is not private (How to set)

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      carrzkiss @viragomann
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      @viragomann
      (Just out of curiosity, why you need incoming DNS access on WAN?)

      We run our own DNS Servers for the Web sites.

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        carrzkiss @carrzkiss
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        Just did a check on https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
        And it shows that Port 80, and 443 are both closed.
        DNS, SMTP, and POP3 are all open.

        So, is this a PFSense issue?
        I have the records set up, but it seems that PFSense is not allowing traffic in on the two ports.

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @carrzkiss
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          @carrzkiss It's showing passed traffic, though:
          1adb9ee0-9722-404f-abbb-c92cdd3a802c-image.png

          The port 80 rule is set to log, it is logging those packets? In this situation it's usually the web server firewall blocking the connection, or (rarely) an incorrect gateway on the web server.

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            carrzkiss @SteveITS
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            @steveits
            All Web servers have their gateway set to
            192.168.4.1

            Also.
            The DNS Server.
            The way it is set up is like so.
            The domain.com
            www - Host(A) - IP Address (Outside IP Address)

            This is working, as when I set up LetsEncrypt, I did it with DNS Text (txt) Entries. And it worked without fault.

            What else would I need to check?

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              carrzkiss @carrzkiss
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              looking at the log files.
              Firewall --
              Passed Mar 2 16:11:19 - HTTP web server interface - source (China IP Address) -- Destination (192.168.2.46) TCP:S

              I checked on https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/, and it shows all sites are down using HTTP or HTTPS.

              Does this mean it is going through PFSense, but being stopped on the ServerSide?
              If so, what do I need to check on the Servers?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Check the state table in Diag > States when you are trying to connect externally.

                You should be able to see the open states on WAN and LAN with the WAN states NAT'd.

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                  carrzkiss @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10
                  When I tried to access one of the sites from outside, I refreshed the States page, and there were no new entries.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Hmm, I would check again. Try filtering by6 the client IP you're testing from. The firewall logs indicate it's passing traffic and NATing it and that will create a state.
                    The states may get closed almost immediately though if the load-balancer (which I assume is at 192.168.2.46) is refusing them.

                    A pcap on LAN would confirm that.

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                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @carrzkiss
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                      @carrzkiss said in Webserver SSL is not private (How to set):

                      but being stopped on the ServerSide

                      Probably.
                      That said I just spent an absurd amount of time setting up a VLAN on a working-network switch replacement...devices could resolve DNS using pfSense [22.01, need to upgrade] and states were opening out the WAN but no traffic flowed from the VLAN until we restarted pfSense. ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Haven't seen that before.

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                        carrzkiss
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                        @steveits
                        I just checked on a video for HAproxy
                        It seems to me that the HAproxy is used for multiple Servers.
                        In my case, I do have multiple servers, but only ONE IP Address is used for all Gateways into the Actual Web Servers themselves.
                        UNLESS the HAproxy is used for Multiple Web Sites???
                        If that is the case, I will look into setting it up and testing it later this evening.
                        The SSL Cert is a Wildcard Cert, the same type I've used for 4 years now through LetsEncrypt.
                        I have 8 Domains, and they are all on the same Cert with my primary web domain as the holder.

                        There are 4 ARR Servers on the load balance using .46
                        If ARR1 is used, ARR2 is used, and so on.

                        The Port Forwarding would seem to be the most likely one for my setup, but I will let you all tell me otherwise.

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                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @carrzkiss
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                          @carrzkiss Port forward seems like what you want. People do occasionally post here asking to forward port 443 to one server for example.com and another for example.net which doesn't work without something proxying that by hostname.

                          If you forward directly to one web server IP instead of the load balancer does it work? If so, then it would be a load balancer issue.

                          Check a packet capture and the states as noted above.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            If the load-balancer is at .46 and is proxying or forwarding traffic from there to other internal servers it should work. HAProxy would replace any existing load-balancer.

                            You might be seeing some asymmetric routing depending on how the load-balancer is handling that traffic. I would expect to see some blocked traffic on LAN in the firewall log if that's the case though.

                            You might also be seeing this: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/upgrade-before-2.2.html#microsoft-load-balancing-open-mesh-traffic
                            If the load-balancer is using a multicast MAC address you'd need to set that tunable.

                            Steve

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                              carrzkiss
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                              @steveits
                              I just checked something.
                              On one of the ARR Servers, I did a ping.
                              Google - works
                              Microsoft - Request Timed Out.

                              So, it seems the servers are not getting into the world.
                              And if they are not getting out, and nothing is coming in, that would explain why there is no connection.


                              I also found in System / General
                              DNS Server Settings.
                              I am unsure if I did this right or not.
                              I added in the DNS Server I run (WAN IP Address)
                              Along with the 3-pointer DNS Servers that point records for us as well.
                              But none of that seemed to change anything.

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                                carrzkiss @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10
                                I am getting someplace now. Thank you.
                                Adding the
                                Tunable: net.link.ether.inet.allow_multicast
                                Value: 1
                                It was what was needed.

                                I was able to pull the site up.
                                The SSL is giving an error again. (the connection if not private)
                                And I have to figure out how to get the SQL Server to work, but at least I am getting something.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Adding DNS servers there only does anything for queries from pfSense itself unless the resolver is in forwarding mode.

                                  Are those web servers using their own IPs to send pings or is everything going via the load-balancer IP?
                                  Definitely check that multicast MAC issue if it's the latter.

                                  Steve

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                                    carrzkiss @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10
                                    All web servers go through the ARR Server(s), as that is the only IP Address I have listed for allowing passage through the Firewall. (Set up the same way I had it through the other Router.)

                                    -- Definitely check that multicast MAC issue if it's the latter.

                                    What exactly do I need to check in on this?

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                                      carrzkiss @carrzkiss
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                                      Update
                                      Just did a check on https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
                                      And it shows that Port 80 and 443 are both OPEN.

                                      The following areas had to be updated with the new Network information. (When you design something and leave it for a few years, you kind of forget about it)

                                      Microsoft Failover Cluster for SQL Server
                                      Two IP Addresses had to have their subnets changed over.
                                      And that got the SQL Server running.

                                      However, since getting that going, which got rid of the SQL Server error, I am once again faced with the

                                      The site can't be reached.

                                      I removed all the DNS IP Address entries I listed prior.
                                      And rebooted PFSense.
                                      And the sites are all still down.

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                                        carrzkiss @carrzkiss
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                                        OK.
                                        I can view my websites locally, which is great, using their domains.
                                        port forwards from local networks

                                        Still cannot view them outside of the firewall.
                                        And I also am having an issue with the SSL certs.
                                        It seems the ones created through PFSense are not going to work.
                                        So, I will look at something else and see what I can learn about using the PFSense method to create Web Server IIS Certs.

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                                          viragomann @carrzkiss
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                                          @carrzkiss
                                          Can you be more clear about the issue with the certs? Does it work from inside with https?

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by stephenw10

                                            So what error do you get when you try to connect now externally?

                                            Do you see states in the firewall?

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