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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
      last edited by johnpoz

      @gertjan yeah no changes to rules since yesterday that is for sure.. And I don't have any rules on a schedule..

      The only thing that is scheduled is my aliases in pfblocker - those update, but I don't have any sort of auto rules even enabled in pfblocker, only the native aliases..

      If I look in changes

      03. 3/6/23 09:48:16     v22.8   admin@192.168.9.100 (Local Database)
          Firewall: NAT: Outbound - reordered outbound mappings.
      
      02. 3/6/23 15:00:16     v22.8   (system)
          pfBlockerNG: saving DNSBL changes
      
      01. 3/7/23 15:00:16     v22.8   (system)
          pfBlockerNG: saving DNSBL changes
      

      That is an odd comment on the pfblocker change - since I don't even have DNSBL enabled. But do have it set to update my aliases every 6 hours..

      update.jpg

      But clearly that is on a schedule..

      If I look at my crons - I would assume that listing in the config changes is the bottom one

      cron.jpg

      But why should it reset the counters?

      edit: well I just manually kicked off a pfblocker update and it shows in the config log

      01. 3/9/23 04:59:54     v22.8   (system)
          pfBlockerNG: saving DNSBL changes
      

      But my counters didn't reset, sill show the same amount of traffic on my lan rule, as I did before running it. So its prob not that doing it... hmmm?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

        @stephenw10 well they are resetting that is for sure

        Indeed, they sure seem to be.... I can't trigger it to reset either. Yet.

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          Jarhead @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 Just to throw my hat in, checked yesterday and had over a gig on the LAN, today 800M.

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            bigsy @johnpoz
            last edited by bigsy

            @johnpoz Do you have the patch for redmine #14016 applied?

            I had a problem on 23.01 with pfBlocker IP counters resetting overnight until I applied this. I didn't notice the firewall counters. Something in the default cron jobs must have been resetting it?

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                tman222 @bigsy
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                @bigsy said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

                @johnpoz Do you have the patch for redmine #14016 applied?

                I had a problem on 23.01 with pfBlocker IP counters resetting overnight until I applied this. I didn't notice the firewall counters. Something in the default cron jobs must have been resetting it?

                Thanks @bigsy for calling out this patch. I have been running into the same issue (pfBlockerNG IP counters resetting overnight) and then noticed similar to @johnpoz that my traffic counters didn't make sense. Applied the patch and will monitor to see if that has hopefully fixed it.

                Relevant thread:
                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/178107/23-01-periodic-scripts-have-been-re-enabled-and-are-broken/5

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bigsy
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @bigsy I think you might of found it, I do have 2 patches installed for state issues

                  https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/commit/d9fa4584e3fb63d6051e9f1db7655f931cb1be19.patch

                  and one I manually applied

                  diff --git a/blah/usr/local/www/rrd_fetch_json.php b/blah/usr/local/www/rrd_fetch_json.php
                  index df0401f96e89..4d7574819ac9 100644
                  --- a/blah/usr/local/www/rrd_fetch_json.php
                  +++ b/blah/usr/local/www/rrd_fetch_json.php
                  @@ -226,7 +226,8 @@ foreach ($side as $settings) {
                                                  $ds = "state changes";
                                                  break;
                                          case "pfnat":
                  -                               $ignore = true;
                  +                               $unit_acronym = "";
                  +                               $ds = "NAT states";
                                                  break;
                                          case "inpass":
                                                  $ninetyfifth = true;
                  

                  Looking into the details now.

                  edit: ok applied ff715efce5e6c65b3d49dc2da7e1bdc437ecbf12 lets see if resets tonight or next couple of days.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Same here. Let's see....

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

                      edit: ok applied ff715efce5e6c65b3d49dc2da7e1bdc437ecbf12

                      I had that one already active.
                      My counter are still good / plausible.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                        last edited by

                        @gertjan nope reset...

                        WTF???

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                          bigsy @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz Did you reboot or trigger a rewrite of the cron config after applying the patch per this link?

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bigsy
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @bigsy valid point - I did not reboot.. That is the only way to redo the crons? Got to be a better way ;)

                            ok - I went in and did a save on couple crons, without changing anything... This should of kicked them in, but no I didn't do that after apply the patch. Did that now.. Lets see..

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz

                              You have (default I guess) :

                              8453eb24-f5d3-4e41-92e7-43437e32afca-image.png

                              I have

                              34a69239-650c-4f7f-bb43-9dae2375e33c-image.png

                              Which says : ones a day, at minute 15.
                              as I'm not trying to update my single DNSBL (ADs_basic) that often - it's actually set to 'Weekly'.

                              Which means my pfBlockerng tries to actually update my single list ones a week.

                              I'll do a force update .... nothing changed.

                              Btw : take note : I have no IP feeds so no pfBlockerng firewall rules what so ever. My floating pane is empty.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @gertjan said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

                                Which says : ones a day, at minute 15.

                                No not minute - that is hour.

                                hour.jpg

                                15 is 3pm for non 24 hour clock people ;)

                                Something lost in translation with the cron setting in pfblocker it seems..

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                                • GertjanG
                                  Gertjan @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Gertjan

                                  @johnpoz said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

                                  non 24 hour clock people ;)

                                  By any chance, are these flat-earthers related ?
                                  I was told a day has 24 hours.

                                  Anyway :

                                  240388e9-3e48-4ab3-985f-64cf198e44fe-image.png

                                  What I make of it : "15 minutes after midnight".
                                  If it's something else : fine to me 😊

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  • bingo600B
                                    bingo600
                                    last edited by bingo600

                                    I just applied the patch

                                    This is my Crontab after applying the patch , but nothing else

                                    Pre-Reroot
                                    
                                    /root: vi /etc/crontab
                                    
                                    # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD
                                    #
                                    # $FreeBSD$
                                    #
                                    SHELL=/bin/sh
                                    PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
                                    #
                                    15      4       *       *       6       root    periodic weekly
                                    30      5       1       *       *       root    periodic monthly
                                    #
                                    # Adjust the time zone if the CMOS clock keeps local time, as opposed to
                                    #
                                    # pfSense specific crontab entries
                                    # Created: March 10, 2023, 7:06 am
                                    #
                                    
                                    1,31    0-5     *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 adjkerntz -a
                                    1       3       1       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.update_bogons.sh
                                    1       1       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.dyndns.update
                                    */60    *       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /usr/local/sbin/expiretable -v -t 3600 virusprot
                                    30      12      *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.update_urltables
                                    1       0       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.update_pkg_metadata
                                    */1     *       *       *       *       root    /usr/sbin/newsyslog
                                    1       3       *       *       *       root    /etc/rc.periodic daily
                                    15      4       *       *       6       root    /etc/rc.periodic weekly
                                    30      5       1       *       *       root    /etc/rc.periodic monthly
                                    */1     *       *       *       *       root    /usr/local/pkg/servicewatchdog_cron.php
                                    #
                                    # If possible do not add items to this file manually.
                                    # If done so, this file must be terminated with a blank line (e.g. new line)
                                    #
                                    
                                    :q!
                                    
                                    

                                    Same contents after restarting Cron aka no change in the jobs

                                    /root: /etc/rc.d/cron restart
                                    Stopping cron.
                                    Waiting for PIDS: 31184.
                                    

                                    I did a "Reroot" , and didn't even loose my webradio stream 👍

                                    Post Reroot
                                    #
                                    # pfSense specific crontab entries
                                    # Created: March 10, 2023, 11:59 am
                                    #
                                    SHELL=/bin/sh
                                    PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
                                    
                                    1,31    0-5     *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 adjkerntz -a
                                    1       3       1       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.update_bogons.sh
                                    1       1       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.dyndns.update
                                    */60    *       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /usr/local/sbin/expiretable -v -t 3600 virusprot
                                    30      12      *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.update_urltables
                                    1       0       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/nice -n20 /etc/rc.update_pkg_metadata
                                    */1     *       *       *       *       root    /usr/sbin/newsyslog
                                    1       3       *       *       *       root    /etc/rc.periodic daily
                                    15      4       *       *       6       root    /etc/rc.periodic weekly
                                    30      5       1       *       *       root    /etc/rc.periodic monthly
                                    */1     *       *       *       *       root    /usr/local/pkg/servicewatchdog_cron.php
                                    #
                                    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE MANUALLY!
                                    # Use the cron package or create files in /etc/cron.d/.
                                    #
                                    
                                    
                                    

                                    That cleaned up the crontab file

                                    Seems like this is taken out by the patch

                                    #
                                    15      4       *       *       6       root    periodic weekly
                                    30      5       1       *       *       root    periodic monthly
                                    #
                                    # Adjust the time zone if the CMOS clock keeps local time, as opposed to
                                    #
                                    

                                    /Bingo

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                                      last edited by

                                      @gertjan said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

                                      I was told a day has 24 hours.

                                      It does 0 to 23 ;)

                                      What version are you on - your cron package looks different than mine.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ha, same! I can fail to follow instructions like any user. 🙄

                                        You should just be able to remove those cron jobs and the patch would prevent them being re-added.

                                        Steve

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 haha - yeah I can not follow instructions with the best of them... Users have nothing on me when it comes to not paying attention or missing details that is for sure.

                                          So ELI5 - why wouldn't the patch remove old crons if they are not needed.. So we are suppose to manually remove those daily, weekly, monthly crons?

                                          I went in and saved cron job, and even restarted the cron services - I still how them in the cron package - am I suppose to delete them? And then restart cron?

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                                          • GertjanG
                                            Gertjan @johnpoz
                                            last edited by Gertjan

                                            @johnpoz said in state counters, firewall rules resetting?:

                                            What version are you on - your cron package looks different than mine

                                            fec4138b-85db-43c8-9e0b-e6d26a11fdfb-image.png

                                            On
                                            23.01-RELEASE (amd64)
                                            built on Fri Feb 10 20:06:33 UTC 2023
                                            FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT

                                            Original pfSense theme.

                                            edit :

                                            This
                                            0f7f3b18-c2da-451d-be41-1b1fae6f3850-image.png

                                            is from the main pfBlockerng page.

                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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