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    Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?

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      riahc8 @keyser
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      @keyser said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

      @riahc8 Yeah that should be fine, but you need to make sure it turbo's to somewhere around 4Ghz. You need that turbo speed to handle downloads @ wirespeed.

      Also - you should be aware that the turbo speed is not sustainable in prolonged durations (probably >30s ) because of heat generation, so you might experience a slight scaleback in bandwidth if you are doing a sustained wirespeed download.

      But it's hard to predict how much of an impact this will have.

      The thing is the J6412 is only 2 and burst up to 2.6 ..... But it has 2.5 NICs

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        I have tested the C3558 passing 1Gbps over PPPoE but only locally.

        There are multiple threads here showing, for example, the J1900 is not capable of passing 1Gbps over PPPoE.

        Both of those are unidirectional though.

        https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3129vs2131vs4474/Intel-Atom-C3558-vs-Intel-Celeron-J1900-vs-Intel-Celeron-J6412

        Steve

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          keyser Rebel Alliance @riahc8
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          @riahc8 said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

          @keyser said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

          @riahc8 Yeah that should be fine, but you need to make sure it turbo's to somewhere around 4Ghz. You need that turbo speed to handle downloads @ wirespeed.

          Also - you should be aware that the turbo speed is not sustainable in prolonged durations (probably >30s ) because of heat generation, so you might experience a slight scaleback in bandwidth if you are doing a sustained wirespeed download.

          But it's hard to predict how much of an impact this will have.

          The thing is the J6412 is only 2 and burst up to 2.6 ..... But it has 2.5 NICs

          Well taking steve’s post above into account, the J6412 should be more than enough. Its quite a lot faster than the C3558 which he could reach 1Gbe PPPoE with. So the J6412 would be a great choice as that uses very little power.

          Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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            riahc8 @keyser
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            @keyser said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

            @riahc8 said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

            @keyser said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

            @riahc8 Yeah that should be fine, but you need to make sure it turbo's to somewhere around 4Ghz. You need that turbo speed to handle downloads @ wirespeed.

            Also - you should be aware that the turbo speed is not sustainable in prolonged durations (probably >30s ) because of heat generation, so you might experience a slight scaleback in bandwidth if you are doing a sustained wirespeed download.

            But it's hard to predict how much of an impact this will have.

            The thing is the J6412 is only 2 and burst up to 2.6 ..... But it has 2.5 NICs

            Well taking steve’s post above into account, the J6412 should be more than enough. Its quite a lot faster than the C3558 which he could reach 1Gbe PPPoE with. So the J6412 would be a great choice as that uses very little power.

            Since Im making a investment, it would be nice to invest just in ONE device....

            https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3129vs2131vs4474vs2588/Intel-Atom-C3558-vs-Intel-Celeron-J1900-vs-Intel-Celeron-J6412-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2650L-v3

            The Intel Xeon E5-2650L v3 can run up to 2.5 Ghz ... I could enable Turbo Boost always on and that would be enough, correct?

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            • keyserK
              keyser Rebel Alliance @riahc8
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              @riahc8 It would seem so - just be aware that virtualization adds overhead - especially when it comes to interrupt handling from NICs.
              So even though the processing power is present, there could be a virtualization latency penalty that prevents you from exploiting it.
              But as far as I remember, the v3 series of XEONs has the needed nested hardware virtualization tables to avoid the massive penalty of interrupt handling that older hardware can suffer.

              Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                That Xeon is really a completely different class of CPU. Both in terms of processing power and power consumption. The hardware cost would need to be a lot less to justify it for me. Or your VM requirements sufficiently high.

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                  keyser Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 yeah, I live in Denmark and the powercost for that server would likely be comparable to the intire system cost of the atom based system - every year😳

                  Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Yup, same in the UK. I have some boxes like that and only ever power them up for specific tests.

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                      riahc8 @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in Is this enough to run a symmetric 1Gb download/upload connection?:

                      That Xeon is really a completely different class of CPU. Both in terms of processing power and power consumption. The hardware cost would need to be a lot less to justify it for me. Or your VM requirements sufficiently high.

                      ...It obviously will not be dedicated to only pfSense

                      I actually mention it will be a VM on the Xeon

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Right. If you have a virtual environment requirement that justifies larger hardware like that then it's an easy choice. 😉

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