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    Is TCP Segmentation Offloading turned off or on?

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    • SimoisS
      Simois
      last edited by Simois

      Hello,

      For pfSenseCE 2.6.0;

      On the System>>Advanced>>Networking :: Network Interfaces section [] the "Hardware TCP Segmentation Offloading" chekbox is checked.

      6f9245e3-1daf-4ffa-a535-fcb288e1befa-image.png

      and

      on the System >> Advanced>> System Tunables ::
      the value of the "Enable TCP Segmentation Offload" is "1"

      dca03eb1-e248-40ff-bd91-3208c9b38332-image.png

      I'm confused. Are the two parameters setting exactly the same thing? If so, is TCP Segmentation Offload on or off now?

      NOTE: Two screenshots were taken without changing the settings

      Thanks

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Simois
        last edited by

        @simois If I remember correctly that doesn't really matter, since the checkbox disables it at the card.

        When you do a ifconfig do any of your interfaces show (TSO, TSO4, TSO6) in the options? If not then pretty sure its disabled..

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        • SimoisS
          Simois @johnpoz
          last edited by stephenw10

          @johnpoz

          Yes it doesn't show up in the interface options.

          em0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1492
          	description: METRO_WAN
          	options=812098<VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER>
          	ether 00:1b:78:57:8a:68
          	inet6 **** em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
          	inet ********* netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast *********
          	media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
          	status: active
          	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
          em1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
          	description: LAN
          	options=910098<VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,NETMAP>
          	ether 00:1b:78:57:8a:69
          	inet6 ******** em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
          	inet 192.168.1.*** netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
          	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
          	status: active
          	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
          re0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
          	options=82098<VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC,LINKSTATE>
          	ether 30:9c:23:26:43:ff
          	inet6 ****** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
          	media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
          	status: active
          	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
          
          

          My basic knowledge is lacking, I didn't think to look at the hardware specifications on this subject.

          Thank you very much.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Simois
            last edited by

            @simois you could set that to zero in the tunables - but leaving it 1 for enabled doesn't matter because the checkbox turns it off.

            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/hardware/tune.html#tso-lro

            Might need to change it in the tunables - if the checkbox didn't work for example.

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            • SimoisS
              Simois @johnpoz
              last edited by Simois

              @johnpoz
              You answered my question.

              I also read this document after you guided me.
              As a result, when I test with the ifconfig command when chekbox is selected and not selected in the System>>Advanced>>Networking:: Network Interfaces, TSO closes and opens as required.

              Thank you again

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Simois
                last edited by

                @simois no problem - its was a very valid and good question to be honest.

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                • QinnQ
                  Qinn @johnpoz
                  last edited by Qinn

                  I tought I revive this topic, ;)

                  I just checked and

                  [2.7.2-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: ifconfig | grep TSO
                        options=4e527bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                  

                  So should I uncheck these Hardware TCP Segmentation Offloading and Hardware Large Receive Offloading as these are checked default (meaning these Offloading are disabled)

                  btw

                  [2.7.2-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: pciconf -lv igb0
                  igb0@pci0:1:0:0:        class=0x020000 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x157b subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0000
                      vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                      device     = 'I210 Gigabit Network Connection'
                      class      = network
                      subclass   = ethernet
                  

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by stephenw10

                    You probably want it disabled, yes. Though if you have been running with it enabled and seen no problems it likely won't hurt to leave it enabled. It doesn't do that much on a firewall where TCP connections are mostly not terminated anyway. Some drivers/NICs will cause problems with it enabled which is why we disable it by default. igb is well supported though.

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                    • QinnQ
                      Qinn @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 So it would benefit if it was a workstation? Just for academic reasons, how could I test if there is er difference checking vs unchecking these 2 settings?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Yes. Or a server. Try running an iperf test through the firewall; expect no difference. Try an iperf test to/from the firewall; you might see a difference.

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                        • QinnQ
                          Qinn
                          last edited by

                          Thnx

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