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    Netgate 6100 Crash On Interface Change - Not Resolved (IPv6 + PPPoE)

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    • RobbieTTR
      RobbieTT @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10
      Yes, lost link on firmware update (thanks UniFi) on this occasion but it can happen when changing interface settings on pfSense.

      On ix1 I have 1 x LAN and 1 x VLAN; these are my main networks. They both have IPv4 & IPv6.

      I have one other LAN interface on igc0 that acts as a management interface but it is not normally connected.

       2023-03-23 at 15.17.01.png

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      • RobbieTTR
        RobbieTT @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 said in Netgate 6100 Crash On Interface Change:

        Are you able to replicate that manually?

        That is a bug, it should not happen. We probably need to replicate it locally to solve though.

        It is repeatable and happens roughly 60% of the time if settings are adjusted when the interface is enabled. If the interface is disabled first, then settings changed, then re-enabled it is much less prevalent, under 20% of the time at a guess.

        The example given for this thread is clearly just 1 in 1 event, albeit with the same undesirable result.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Ok, we replicated it here. Digging now....

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          • RobbieTTR
            RobbieTT @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 said in Netgate 6100 Crash On Interface Change:

            Ok, we replicated it here. Digging now....

            Fine work, fine work indeed. 👍

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              A fix for this has now gone in upstream: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14164

              That's not something that can be patched at run time though.

              Steve

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              • RobbieTTR
                RobbieTT @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10 - Thanks Steve, from your comment I guess this will percolate down for a version update window at an unknown date?

                ☕️

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Yes it should be in the next version, 23.05.

                  In fact it's in our repo now. It should be available for testing in todays snapshots:
                  https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-src/commit/f5a365e51feea75d1e5ebc86c53808d8cae7b6d7

                  Steve

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                  • RobbieTTR
                    RobbieTT @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10
                    Thanks again and I am slightly embarrassed to find a bug so soon into my Netgate journey. I'll keep my head down for a bit!

                    ☕️

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Don't be. If everyone reported bugs as soon as they found them with the details you did there would be far fewer to find!

                      Steve

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                        azdeltawye @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10

                        Would this bug affect a 4100 also?

                        It appears that I stumbled across this issue the other day when I was messing with traffic shaping on an interface that had ipv6 enabled. The moment I clicked on 'save', the blue LED on the 4100 stopped blinking, UI became unresponsive and all clients lost internet access.
                        I had to cycle power on the 4100 to restore normal operation.

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                        • RobbieTTR
                          RobbieTT @azdeltawye
                          last edited by

                          @azdeltawye
                          Sounds very similar, to say the least. Hopefully the fix will solve all.

                          ☕️

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Yeah, in fact I don't think it's system specific, or even NIC specific. But even if it is the 4100 is similar enough I'd expect it's possible to hit it there too.

                            Steve

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                            • RobbieTTR
                              RobbieTT @stephenw10
                              last edited by RobbieTT

                              @stephenw10 said in Netgate 6100 Crash On Interface Change:

                              Yes it should be in the next version, 23.05.

                              In fact it's in our repo now. It should be available for testing in todays snapshots:
                              https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-src/commit/f5a365e51feea75d1e5ebc86c53808d8cae7b6d7

                              Steve

                              Hi Steve,
                              Unfortunately the issue persists in 23.05. A change in interface state can still trigger a crash.

                              I ran 7 simple and repeatable tests today - bringing the WAN interface down and back up again (this is enough to trigger the fault) via the disconnect button on Status/Interfaces.

                              7 tests - 4 failures with hard crashes, 3 did not trigger a crash.

                              All 4 failures produced a full crash report, info dump and textdump.tar. All available on request.

                              The back-trace for the 4 crashes are as follows.

                              First:

                              Filename: /var/crash/info.0
                              Dump header from device: /dev/nvd0p3
                                Architecture: amd64
                                Architecture Version: 4
                                Dump Length: 231424
                                Blocksize: 512
                                Compression: none
                                Dumptime: 2023-05-28 14:48:50 +0100
                                Hostname: Router-8.*******.me
                                Magic: FreeBSD Text Dump
                                Version String: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #1 plus-RELENG_23_05-n256102-7cd3d043045: Mon May 22 15:33:52 UTC 2023
                                  root@freebsd:/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-Plus-snapshots-23_05-main/obj/amd64/LkEyii3W/var/j
                                Panic String: page fault
                                Dump Parity: 4132315394
                                Bounds: 0
                                Dump Status: good
                              
                              Filename: /var/crash/textdump.tar.0
                              ddb.txt���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������0600����0�������0�������610534������14434655702�  7122� �����������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������ustar���root����������������������������wheel������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������db:0:kdb.enter.default>  run pfs
                              db:1:pfs> bt
                              Tracing pid 93402 tid 103857 td 0xfffffe00cf7cac80
                              kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0800
                              vpanic() at vpanic+0x183/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0850
                              panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a08b0
                              trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x409/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0910
                              trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0970
                              calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0970
                              --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f5a036, rsp = 0xfffffe00cf8a0a40, rbp = 0xfffffe00cf8a0a70 ---
                              in6_selecthlim() at in6_selecthlim+0x96/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0a70
                              tcp_default_output() at tcp_default_output+0x1ded/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0c60
                              tcp_output() at tcp_output+0x14/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0c80
                              tcp6_usr_connect() at tcp6_usr_connect+0x2f4/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0d10
                              soconnectat() at soconnectat+0x9e/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0d60
                              kern_connectat() at kern_connectat+0xc9/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0dc0
                              sys_connect() at sys_connect+0x75/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0e00
                              amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x109/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0f30
                              fast_syscall_common() at fast_syscall_common+0xf8/frame 0xfffffe00cf8a0f30
                              --- syscall (98, FreeBSD ELF64, connect), rip = 0x800fddc8a, rsp = 0x7fffdf5f8c98, rbp = 0x7fffdf5f8cd0 ---
                              db:1:pfs> 
                              

                              Second:

                              Filename: /var/crash/info.0
                              Dump header from device: /dev/nvd0p3
                                Architecture: amd64
                                Architecture Version: 4
                                Dump Length: 226304
                                Blocksize: 512
                                Compression: none
                                Dumptime: 2023-05-28 14:51:49 +0100
                                Hostname: Router-8.*******.me
                                Magic: FreeBSD Text Dump
                                Version String: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #1 plus-RELENG_23_05-n256102-7cd3d043045: Mon May 22 15:33:52 UTC 2023
                                  root@freebsd:/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-Plus-snapshots-23_05-main/obj/amd64/LkEyii3W/var/j
                                Panic String: page fault
                                Dump Parity: 1095311618
                                Bounds: 0
                                Dump Status: good
                              
                              Filename: /var/crash/textdump.tar.0
                              ddb.txt���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������0600����0�������0�������577521������14434656165�  7136� �����������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������ustar���root����������������������������wheel������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������db:0:kdb.enter.default>  run pfs
                              db:1:pfs> bt
                              Tracing pid 68614 tid 100330 td 0xfffffe00cf325720
                              kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00c7d955f0
                              vpanic() at vpanic+0x183/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95640
                              panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00c7d956a0
                              trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x409/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95700
                              trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95760
                              calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95760
                              --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f63aa4, rsp = 0xfffffe00c7d95830, rbp = 0xfffffe00c7d95a50 ---
                              ip6_output() at ip6_output+0xb74/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95a50
                              udp6_send() at udp6_send+0x78e/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95c10
                              sosend_dgram() at sosend_dgram+0x357/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95c70
                              sousrsend() at sousrsend+0x5f/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95cd0
                              kern_sendit() at kern_sendit+0x132/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95d60
                              sendit() at sendit+0xb7/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95db0
                              sys_sendto() at sys_sendto+0x4d/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95e00
                              amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x109/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95f30
                              fast_syscall_common() at fast_syscall_common+0xf8/frame 0xfffffe00c7d95f30
                              --- syscall (133, FreeBSD ELF64, sendto), rip = 0x823f95f2a, rsp = 0x8202cea88, rbp = 0x8202cead0 ---
                              db:1:pfs>
                              

                              Third:

                              Crash report details:
                              
                              No PHP errors found.
                              
                              Filename: /var/crash/info.0
                              Dump header from device: /dev/nvd0p3
                                Architecture: amd64
                                Architecture Version: 4
                                Dump Length: 229888
                                Blocksize: 512
                                Compression: none
                                Dumptime: 2023-05-28 15:11:48 +0100
                                Hostname: Router-8.*******.me
                                Magic: FreeBSD Text Dump
                                Version String: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #1 plus-RELENG_23_05-n256102-7cd3d043045: Mon May 22 15:33:52 UTC 2023
                                  root@freebsd:/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-Plus-snapshots-23_05-main/obj/amd64/LkEyii3W/var/j
                                Panic String: page fault
                                Dump Parity: 276046082
                                Bounds: 0
                                Dump Status: good
                              
                              Filename: /var/crash/textdump.tar.0
                              ddb.txt���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������0600����0�������0�������605706������14434660444�  7126� �����������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������ustar���root����������������������������wheel������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������db:0:kdb.enter.default>  run pfs
                              db:1:pfs> bt
                              Tracing pid 3281 tid 100913 td 0xfffffe00cfe3e3a0
                              kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4800
                              vpanic() at vpanic+0x183/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4850
                              panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc48b0
                              trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x409/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4910
                              trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4970
                              calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4970
                              --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f5a036, rsp = 0xfffffe00cfdc4a40, rbp = 0xfffffe00cfdc4a70 ---
                              in6_selecthlim() at in6_selecthlim+0x96/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4a70
                              tcp_default_output() at tcp_default_output+0x1ded/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4c60
                              tcp_output() at tcp_output+0x14/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4c80
                              tcp6_usr_connect() at tcp6_usr_connect+0x2f4/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4d10
                              soconnectat() at soconnectat+0x9e/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4d60
                              kern_connectat() at kern_connectat+0xc9/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4dc0
                              sys_connect() at sys_connect+0x75/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4e00
                              amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x109/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4f30
                              fast_syscall_common() at fast_syscall_common+0xf8/frame 0xfffffe00cfdc4f30
                              --- syscall (98, FreeBSD ELF64, connect), rip = 0x800fddc8a, rsp = 0x7fffdfbfbc98, rbp = 0x7fffdfbfbcd0 ---
                              db:1:pfs>
                              

                              Fourth:

                              Crash report details:
                              
                              No PHP errors found.
                              
                              Filename: /var/crash/info.0
                              Dump header from device: /dev/nvd0p3
                                Architecture: amd64
                                Architecture Version: 4
                                Dump Length: 230400
                                Blocksize: 512
                                Compression: none
                                Dumptime: 2023-05-28 15:17:27 +0100
                                Hostname: Router-8.*******.me
                                Magic: FreeBSD Text Dump
                                Version String: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #1 plus-RELENG_23_05-n256102-7cd3d043045: Mon May 22 15:33:52 UTC 2023
                                  root@freebsd:/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-Plus-snapshots-23_05-main/obj/amd64/LkEyii3W/var/j
                                Panic String: page fault
                                Dump Parity: 1131880706
                                Bounds: 0
                                Dump Status: good
                              
                              Filename: /var/crash/textdump.tar.0
                              ddb.txt���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������0600����0�������0�������607520������14434661167�  7125� �����������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������ustar���root����������������������������wheel������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������db:0:kdb.enter.default>  run pfs
                              db:1:pfs> bt
                              Tracing pid 2 tid 100041 td 0xfffffe0085264560
                              kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00850ad910
                              vpanic() at vpanic+0x183/frame 0xfffffe00850ad960
                              panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00850ad9c0
                              trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x409/frame 0xfffffe00850ada20
                              trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00850ada80
                              calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00850ada80
                              --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f5a036, rsp = 0xfffffe00850adb50, rbp = 0xfffffe00850adb80 ---
                              in6_selecthlim() at in6_selecthlim+0x96/frame 0xfffffe00850adb80
                              tcp_default_output() at tcp_default_output+0x1ded/frame 0xfffffe00850add70
                              tcp_timer_rexmt() at tcp_timer_rexmt+0x514/frame 0xfffffe00850addd0
                              tcp_timer_enter() at tcp_timer_enter+0x102/frame 0xfffffe00850ade10
                              softclock_call_cc() at softclock_call_cc+0x13c/frame 0xfffffe00850adec0
                              softclock_thread() at softclock_thread+0xe9/frame 0xfffffe00850adef0
                              fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x7d/frame 0xfffffe00850adf30
                              fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe/frame 0xfffffe00850adf30
                              --- trap 0, rip = 0, rsp = 0, rbp = 0 ---
                              db:1:pfs>
                              

                              The 'solved' status on Redline may need revising:
                              https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14164

                              Sorry to be the bearer of this news. It is an awkward fault to have as even a small interrupt from my ISP can trigger the router to crash.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Urgh, that's disappointing. That looks like two slightly different crashes though. Do you see anything other than the two backtraces shown above?

                                I reopened it.

                                Steve

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                                • RobbieTTR
                                  RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10
                                  There should be 4 back-traces shown above but I have full captures for all 4 events that I can send to you, if that would help.

                                  I hope you remember that it's a Bank Holiday Steve, so feel free to enjoy it instead. 👍

                                  Rob

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                                  • RobbieTTR
                                    RobbieTT
                                    last edited by

                                    New tracking ID on Redmine:

                                    https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14431

                                    ☕️

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      We think we have found the cause here and have a test kernel to confirm it. It is only a test at this point though.

                                      Are you able to test that? So far we have not been able to replicate this locally.

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                                      • RobbieTTR
                                        RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 said in Netgate 6100 Crash On Interface Change - Not Resolved (IPv6 + PPPoE):

                                        Are you able to test that?

                                        Yes of course. If you tell me how to load it, at what logging verbosity and which log extracts you would like to receive I will test it as soon as the network traffic allows.

                                        Do you have an overview of the kernel changes?

                                        ☕️

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by stephenw10

                                          The changes here are to the interface handling in kernel. So mostly to sys/net/if.c and sys/netinet6/in6.c

                                          They are a test only at this point and would need streamlining before including upstream. But running this should prove if this is what you're hitting.

                                          Test Kernel:
                                          Removed after finding a new bug.

                                          Move /boot/kernel to a backup:

                                          mv /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.old2
                                          

                                          Upload the tgz to /boot and then extract it there:

                                          tar -xzf kernel-amd64-inet6-panic.tgz
                                          

                                          Then reboot into that. Confirm you're running that after booting:

                                          [23.05-RELEASE][root@6100-3.stevew.lan]/root: uname -a
                                          FreeBSD 6100-3.stevew.lan 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT inet6_backport-n256104-f5556386d38 pfsense-NODEBUG amd64
                                          

                                          I've been running it here no problem but I couldn't hit the issue before hand so have a recovery solution in place! 😉

                                          If you can test that and it no-longer hits that issue though we can get a long-term solution upstreamed.

                                          Steve

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            We found a bug in that test code and are working on something new.

                                            I don't recommend running that yet.

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