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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
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      @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

      I was required to set WAN IP and not LAN IP as with my previous Firewall...

      huh? On a port forward the the destination IP would be pfsense public IP (wan address) - this is where someone would be going to from the internet when trying to get to your service.

      When you create a firewall rule, the destination in the firewall rule on the wan would allow to your inside rfc1918 address that you forwarded traffic too. This rule is auto created when you create the port forward, unless you change the default setting on the port forward.

      but everything that is a positive hit on a domain is forwarded to PFSense login page

      If your trying to go to something.domain.tld that resolves to your public IP while your inside your network - you would either need to setup nat reflection, or its better for devices on your internal network to resolve something.domain.tld to your local server or proxy IP, and not the pfsense wan IP.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

        Now the URLs are reachable,

        In what way? You are able to hit the sites as expected?

        Are these sites resolving to the pfSense WAN IP?

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          dgarner @johnpoz
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          Hey guys, I apologize about the disappearance. I had a situation that diverted my attention away from everything for a few days. I apologize the lack of professionalism.

          @johnpoz Can you explain this last part more?

          So yes, that is what I am trying to do. Each node (roughly 10 servers, 3 workstations, etc.) has a hostname, and hostnane -f resolves to their FQDN, which returns correct. The PFSense hardware Firewall is set as the Gateway and DNS Resolver for each device.

          Node 1 is the NGinx server which also hosts Apache, which should dictate via nginx where to send traffic via their internal IPs in website.conf

          Is that correct, or incorrect?

          @stephenw10 Well, as I just discovered because I had not tried before, yes, it appears that's what is happening. My Public IP is hosting the PFSense Admin page.

          Coooooooool...

          That should probably be changed regardless of all the other problems going on, hahaha.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
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            @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

            My Public IP is hosting the PFSense Admin page.

            No what is happening is the gui is listening on all IPs, and your able to hit the public IP from your lan.. So yeah you can hit the web gui via your public IP when your on a lan side network.. But you can not do that from the internet side unless you allowed it via a firewall rule

            What part did I not explain well enough..

            Your public IP lets call it 1.2.3.4, and your inside whatever.domain.tld that you forward to is on say 192.168.1.100.. So when your local setup host override so that whatever.domain.tld resolves to 192.168.1.100

            Or setup nat reflection..

            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/port-forwards-from-local-networks.html

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Yes so, as described in that first link, if you're using FQDNs that resolve to a public IP on the firewall and have port forwards setup then accessing them from inside the firewall does not hit the port forwards and hence you get the webgui instead, which listens on all IPs.
              Use NAT reflection or split DNS so internal hosts hit the expected targets.

              Steve

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                dgarner @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz Okay, I see what you're saying.
                I have attempted to resolve this issue by ensuring that Pure NAT was enabled and I have set up Split DNS as well, however, what is being said about 'this will only happen on LAN and not WAN unless Firewall rule.." is not necessarily true? unless the Firewall rule is Port 80 for web traffic.

                I have transferred all ports from our previous Firewall, I have set up DHCP and Split DNS and I am still having PFSense catch all traffic, even from WAN from my phone.

                I must run my children to school and I can post configs of all these, if that would be helpful.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
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                  @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

                  if that would be helpful.

                  Seeing what you did would help us point out what is not right yes..

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                    dgarner @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz (PS, Thanks, as well, @stephenw10 for all of your help, gentlemen)

                    I don't know guidelines on photos, so I will refrain and use only text to display configurations.


                    NAT Reflection mode for port forwards: Pure NAT (also tried with Helper on LAN interface)
                    domain: hq.domain.com
                    DNS Server 1: Local PFSense IP (Not 127)
                    DNS 2: Google
                    DNS 3: Alt. Google

                    Firewall:
                    Firewall Aliases IP
                    Nginx - 192.168.1.10

                    NAT / Port Forward:
                    HTTP/HTTPS/HTTPd:
                    Interface: WAN
                    Dest. WAN Address
                    Port Range 80 / 8080 / 443 (Respectively)
                    Redirect target IP: LAN Address (just changed .. turned on Airplane and tried again, nothing.)

                    OMD, Example:
                    Interface: WAN
                    Protocol: TCP/UDP
                    Dest. WAN Address
                    Dest. Port Range: 6555 - 6559

                    Redirect target IP: Single host - 192.168.1.11
                    Redirect target port range: 6555

                    Rules to Match.

                    DHCP Maps out all main nodes, as an example..

                    MAC Address: [MAC]
                    Client ID: [MAC]
                    IP Address: 192.168.1.10
                    Hostname: Nginx
                    Gateway: [IP to PFSense Router]

                    DNS Resolver
                    Network Interfaces: All
                    Outgoing Interfaces: All
                    DHCP Registration: Unchecked (Perhaps this would be easier ...)
                    Static DHCP: Unchecked (Perhaps this should be easier ...)

                    Host Overrides:
                    Host: Nginx
                    Domain: domain.com
                    IP Address: 192.168.1.10

                    Additional Names for this Host:
                    Hostname: Home
                    Domain: domain.com


                    If you want me to take ss or submit an actual conf. file, I would willing to do so.
                    conf files would have to be redacted some, of course.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
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                      @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

                      I don't know guidelines on photos

                      screenshots are always better - please post screenshots of your portforward and wan rules. Also let us know if you have any rules in floating.

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                        dgarner @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz Sounds perfect, sir.

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                        This is an example, as there are roughly 60 ports open at the moment.

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                        Rules
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                        And here is one thing in particular I am attempting to work out ...

                        DHCP
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                        I think this is perhaps a good beginning?

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
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                          @dgarner what are you wanting to do here

                          what.jpg

                          That makes no sense to me..

                          edit: these make no sense either

                          either.jpg

                          Why would you forward something that is hitting your pfsense wan address to pfsense lan address? Are you trying to get haproxy to reverse proxy something to inside your network?

                          if your running nginx as reverse proxy somewhere behind pfsense, the forward would go to that specific IP..

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

                            Redirect target IP: LAN Address

                            Yup that's almost certainly incorrect.

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                              dgarner @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz The whitelisting IP was an attempt to get connectivity to my phone to the network in a rush before I had time to properly install Twingate or a VPN.
                              This will be deleted now.
                              Thank you for making me notice this again. :D

                              Yes, as I believe I said above, that's exactly the objective.
                              I am using Nginx by F5 (Not NPM or whatever with the red gem logo) along with Apache as a reverse proxy and am attempting to allow clients to connect on the outside via "web ports."

                              80 = duh
                              443 = duh
                              8080 = Ports on which Apache AND Nginx are running same server, Nginx (80) and Apache (8080) should be serving web content to clients, which almost all of my servers have some sort of web content, even if it's something such as an administrative "CPanel" type web interface.

                              I know I have attempted to not use LAN Address before, but I will change back to specific host and see if that resolves it now that things are more configure that previously.

                              Thank you for the for confirmation @stephenw10 -- it genuinely means a lot from both of you guys, thank you. :D

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @dgarner what do you think these do exactly?

                                wrong.jpg

                                Those are not doing anything..

                                How many more like that do you have? You mention something about 60 ports?

                                Not sure why your running a reverse proxy inside your network, why would you not just run haproxy right on pfsense? Much cleaner way to do it imho.

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                                  dgarner @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

                                  @dgarner what do you think these do exactly?

                                  wrong.jpg

                                  Those are not doing anything..

                                  How many more like that do you have? You mention something about 60 ports?

                                  Not sure why your running a reverse proxy inside your network, why would you not just run haproxy right on pfsense? Much cleaner way to do it imho.

                                  Because I have been running a reverse proxy much longer than I have been using PFSense.
                                  I will look into HA but as NGinx is already set up, it's at least preferable to have it working momentarily until I can make time to switch to HA.

                                  Those ports were not originally "LAN/LAN" and "WAN/WAN" --those were spaghetti against the wall trying to make this work. Haha.

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                                    dgarner @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz As an example, most of my Port Fowarding/Rules look like this,
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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      @dgarner those look normal - not sure why any reason to hide rfc1918 space? Are those public IPs you obfuscated? Are you routing public IP space to behind pfsense? If so there would be no need for any port forwards.

                                      If they are rfc1918, as long as that .10 address isn't pfsense address, then those should work unless you had blocking in floating, or in wan that blocked?

                                      When troubleshooting port forwards.. Normally couple of minutes running through the troubleshooting guide will find the source of the problem right away.

                                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/nat-port-forwards.html

                                      spaghetti against the wall trying to make this work. Haha.

                                      Never a good idea ;) just makes a mess.. I taste my spaghetti to know if its the proper al dente hahah

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                                        dgarner @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz No, I'm just hyper paranoid. :)

                                        So, in recap, I have shifted NAT IP from LAN Address to Individual host with port and rules in place to support it, NAT reflection is on Pure NAT and DNS Split is enabled and set up along with DHCP entries to match -- and all machines use PFSense as primary DNS nameserver, including the machine in question.

                                        Woohoo -- sorta. All of these have led to finally resolving on LAN side -- ... still not WAN from my phone, though? Hmm.

                                        At least we're getting closer.

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dgarner
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                                          @dgarner said in PFSense rewriting all traffic?:

                                          still not WAN from my phone, though? Hmm.

                                          First step for me would be to actually validate traffic hits your wan from outside via sniff, can you see me . org is good place to test tcp traffic from outside.

                                          Then sniff on the lan side interface while doing the test traffic, does pfsense send it on? That would point to maybe a firewall issue on where your forwarding too? Pure nat would nat the source IP, which wouldn't be a local IP. With split dns the IP would be local so maybe the host your sending too allows its own network, but not remote networks, etc.

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                                            dgarner
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                                            @johnpoz Great point. Thank you for the reminder.

                                            Ports still remain closed to the outside world.

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