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    What hardware to get for a small "cabinet"?

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      rainer_d @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 If I get fiber, it will most likely be 1GBit symmetric. It's unclear though, if I ever get FTTH.
      Currently, fiber seems to end at the DSLAM and I get max 300/70.

      VDSL is received at the "IN" port, yes.

      Thanks for the link to the Proscend device.
      So this "thing" can replace my Zyxel bridge (it's really a router that I run in bridge-mode, so I can run pfSense)?
      Interesting.
      Of course I didn't know these things existed ;-)

      My co-worker also suggested to just re-wire the 2x4 pairs of into one RJ45 socket again.
      I'm not really a wire-person...

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        If there is excess cable re-terminating the patch panel is just about having the right tools (or an excuse to go buy some!).
        Sounds like you might have some colleagues you could bribe with a few beers/coffees. 😉

        I would do that first because if they really are 100M only cables that limits your options significantly.

        I feel your FTTH pain. I periodically check the roll-out announcements here in the UK and then go back to VDSL. 🙄

        Steve

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Bumping...

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            rainer_d @stephenw10
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            Well, after spending over 2500 CHF on the re-cabling with 6E, I got a 2100.

            $work gave me this:

            IMG_9686.jpg

            However, I don't quite understand how this is supposed to work?

            If I insert it into the GBIC port, I get no link on it.

            I can't force it to some media-setting, because PPPoE simply doesn't have that setting.

            So, I still use the old bridge so far.

            IMG_9687.jpg

            This of course does not leave enough room for the small TP-Link 105 POE switch I'm eyeing (and which I kind of need for the EAP660HD that I got shrink-wrapped but less than half-price from a guy in the next village who has his new house wired up like a pro).

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              There is a thread discussing using that module with a 2100, it can work. However IIRC it has an unfortunate bug in that the module will only work if it's inserted (or reinserted) after boot. It also has a very odd method to set the VCI/VPI profile used by configuring a VLAN.

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                rainer_d @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Ahhhh....well.

                I'll try the insert-after-boot-thing. I don't boot too often, so if that's what it's gonna take....

                Would be soooo cool to get rid of the dumb bridge and the associated PSU.

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                  Dobby_ @rainer_d
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                  @rainer_d

                  Switches with 10 GBit/s ports

                  • Netgear GS110MX ~200 €
                    Unmanaged 10 Port Switch
                  • Netgear GS110EMX ~200 €
                    Managed 10 Port Switch

                  PoE Switch

                  • Netgear GS310TP ~160 €
                    Managed 10 Port PoE Switch with SFP ports

                  Switch that can be powered over PoE

                  • Netgear GS108Tv3 ~90€
                    8 Port GB Switch can route the VLANs if needed self

                  Multi-GIG Switch

                  • QNAP QSW-1105-5T ~90 €
                    5 Ports mit 2,5 G/1 G/100 M Unmanaged Switch
                  • QNAP QSW-2104-2S ~150 €
                    2 ports SFP+ & 5 Ports mit 2,5 G/1 G/100 M
                  • QNAP QSW-2104-2T ~159 €
                    2 ports 10GbE RJ45 & 4 Ports mit 2,5 G/1 G/100 M

                  They are all silent without fans or moving parts.

                  4100/6100 wall mount kit

                  #~. @Dobby

                  Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                  PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                  PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                    rainer_d @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10
                    IMG_9871.jpg

                    It actually works when I insert the module once the system has booted!
                    As it's not remote and I rarely need to reboot, I think I'll live with that. Certainly worth removing a small PSU and that bridge-box from the cabinet.

                    Now, does anyone know where I can source the shortest RJ11 to RJ45 cable? That would be great ;-)

                    Also, are there shorter cables from/to the PSU available?

                    Before I moved, I had the VDSL-connection (from $work) upgraded to 50/50 (from 20/20). My old APU2 router died in the move and I used its predecessor, an ALIX. I recently checked and it still showed 20/20 more or less. It seems like the change never went through. They did upgrade it to 50/50 though when I told them ;-)

                    BTW: does the 2100 have some sort of temperature sensor and can this be displayed on the start-page?
                    There's no direct sunlight in that spot, but it can get pretty warm in the apartment during the summer.

                    All together, I'm very pleased with the outcome so far. The 2100 is enough for the foreseeable future and it's also nicely compact.

                    Fun fact: the people that did the recabling told me I needed to clean the floor because they used a lot of lube to get the cables in and out. And truly, it was extremely slippery in some places.

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                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @rainer_d
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                      @rainer_d said in What hardware to get for a small "cabinet"?:

                      Now, does anyone know where I can source the shortest RJ11 to RJ45 cable? That would be great ;-)

                      What are you connecting that is RJ11? That's a 6-wire (at most) phone connector... Most phones use 2 of the 4 wires (BYRG) in the set -- they're completely not compatible.

                      Ryan
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                        rainer_d @rcoleman-netgate
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                        @rcoleman-netgate I don't know what it is. It's the thing that connects from the DSL-bridge to the socket that DSL comes out of (the socket with the green cables underneath).

                        I assumed it was a telephone jack (basically).

                        On the one side it's definitely RJ45, on the other side it isn't and it looks like the cable that my old (POTS)-phone used.

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                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @rainer_d
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                          @rainer_d If this is on the TELCO side of the DSL then you just need a phone line. Any normal RJ11 cable will do

                          Ryan
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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            I'm sure you could buy a shorter lead but for something really short I'd be making it myself. If you have the crimp tools to do so; or know someone who does. 😉

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                              FSC830 @rcoleman-netgate
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                              @rcoleman-netgate said in What hardware to get for a small "cabinet"?:

                              @rainer_d If this is on the TELCO side of the DSL then you just need a phone line. Any normal RJ11 cable will do

                              Yes and no 😊 .
                              Sure, in most cases it works, but... I recommend never to plug a RJ11 into a RJ45.
                              The jack matches of course, but I have seen some issues, in which the RJ45 was damaged afterwards. When plugging in a RJ45 cable again, some contacts did not have a proper contact, because they have been bend by the RJ11 jack.

                              As far as I remember, the shortest RJ11 to RJ45 was 3m.

                              Regards

                              Edit: Did see some shorter cables at the "big river"... 😉

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                                mvikman
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                                If it's the DSL-line cable, then It's a simple one to make yourself if you have (or know someone who does) the tools... but if not, then I would ask some local shop that does electrical/IT installs, if the can make one for you. Shouldn't cost much.

                                pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                  rainer_d @mvikman
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                                  @mvikman I'll try in the office next week - they have all the tools, no point in my buying anything ;-)
                                  In the mean-time, I found a shorter cable in my own stash.

                                  I will update this thread once I have more parts.

                                  Thanks everybody so far!

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