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Latest update failed - caught in login loop

Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Wastapi
    last edited by May 15, 2023, 7:50 PM

    Follow these instructions: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-check.html

    We, in TAC, run fsck about a dozen times when we hit the UFS loop.

    The back up your config and reinstall with ZFS (if you're not on a Netgate 1000 or 3100 unit).

    Ryan
    Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
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      Wastapi @rcoleman-netgate
      last edited by rcoleman-netgate May 15, 2023, 8:42 PM May 15, 2023, 8:03 PM

      @rcoleman-netgate
      Thanks. Still no luck! Ran it 15 times to be sure.

      I really don't get it. :/
      See attached
      login-to-view

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        rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Wastapi
        last edited by May 15, 2023, 8:45 PM

        @wastapi There are times that the UFS partition is just too far gone to be repaired.

        You should be able to mount it in RO mode and get your XML config if you need it still (but note that we do advise users to back up their config before any and all software updates.

        Ryan
        Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
        Requesting firmware for your Netgate device? https://go.netgate.com
        Switching: Mikrotik, Netgear, Extreme
        Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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          Wastapi @rcoleman-netgate
          last edited by May 15, 2023, 9:07 PM

          @rcoleman-netgate
          Thanks for your continued support! Weird. Not sure why I can't get in then. And not sure why it crashed in the update.

          I have a "viable" on on my mac. Old but a nice startpoint.

          Now I downloaded BalenaEtcher
          I downloaded an image (not sure if I chose the right options - See below)
          And when I try to boot on the USB Stick - It says it is not a bootable device

          login-to-view

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            rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Wastapi
            last edited by May 15, 2023, 9:19 PM

            @wastapi said in Latest update failed - caught in login loop:

            I have a "viable" on on my mac. Old but a nice startpoint.
            Now I downloaded BalenaEtcher
            I downloaded an image (not sure if I chose the right options - See below)
            And when I try to boot on the USB Stick - It says it is not a bootable device

            You want the VGA version -- your system has a VGA monitor on it, you're not connecting over Serial AFAICT.

            Ryan
            Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
            Requesting firmware for your Netgate device? https://go.netgate.com
            Switching: Mikrotik, Netgear, Extreme
            Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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              Wastapi @rcoleman-netgate
              last edited by May 15, 2023, 9:30 PM

              @rcoleman-netgate

              1-I tried that too. Same result: Non-system Disk

              2-I opened the drive - Seems not to contain anything. ?!

              login-to-view

              $ du -hs PFSENSE/
              du: PFSENSE//.Trashes: Operation not permitted
              78K PFSENSE/

              Although The image I downloaded and Flashed with was 438MB
              pfSense-CE-memstick-2.6.0-RELEASE-amd64_VGA.img

              3- PS: The Drive is formatted FAT32

              Thanks again!

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                Wastapi @rcoleman-netgate
                last edited by May 16, 2023, 2:04 PM

                @rcoleman-netgate
                Well... I am stuck. I hope someone can help.

                1-I tried fsck
                2-I even tried multiple pfsense thumb drive. They are not considered BOOTABLE by my system anymore. Not sure why. Tried other USB ports in case - no luck

                3-Here is a video of the boot process and steps I took
                Maybe it sheds a light on your end?
                VIDEO: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KDxF_oxTbpzd_l7VInM7SWz_AGHJ5fL5/view?usp=sharing

                Thanks for any help!

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                  Dobby_ @Wastapi
                  last edited by May 16, 2023, 10:39 PM

                  @wastapi

                  • Download the VGA image
                  • make sure the USB stick is empty and no volume
                    or format on that stick is existing (perhaps you wipe
                    it under windows or macOS)
                  • start Balena etcher chose the image and write it
                    to that USB stick

                  Your USB stick should be matching to the USB version in
                  your computer v. 2.0 stick > v. 2.0 port and in the BIOS should be not set up "USB legacy mode" because that is
                  often the problem with USB keyboards and USB sticks.

                  If you have a free SSD/HDD present with nothing more
                  on it I mean no other partitions or formats it might be
                  the best option. Try again the installation.

                  If all will be not really running out of the box you could retry it again by disabling all unneeded things in that computer such ports devices and install over serial
                  console cable from your mac, if you have one present,
                  but then you must choose the memstick serial
                  image, only for being sure that the video card is not
                  that problem during the install.

                  #~. @Dobby

                  Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                  PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                  PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                    Wastapi
                    last edited by May 18, 2023, 3:53 PM

                    @dobby_
                    Thanks for your detailed response!

                    There is nothing about USB legacy mode or version in my BIOS. Weird. But I DO agree, it is crazy that no USB stick is bootable! At the present time, I just want to boot something from a key and it does not work. :/

                    This update crash REALLY seem this update screwed up my machine. not sure where to start from at this point.

                    I am a point where I may start shopping for a miniPC and move on with my life. :/

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                      Dobby_ @Wastapi
                      last edited by May 20, 2023, 6:07 AM

                      @wastapi

                      Really sad to hear from you, but anyway, if you are
                      buying a miniPC you should be perhaps have a look
                      on if it is supporting pfSense out of the box, not
                      running again into that case.

                      #~. @Dobby

                      Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                      PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                      PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                        Wastapi @Dobby_
                        last edited by May 20, 2023, 12:44 PM

                        @dobby_
                        It worked for 3 years non stop. And before that it was accepting this particular usb stick as it was our backup in case we needed to restore.
                        I don’t understand what happened during this update to render it so unusable.

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                          Wastapi @Dobby_
                          last edited by May 24, 2023, 2:19 AM

                          @Dobby_
                          So I purchased this. https://a.co/d/8pTeH9O

                          There are no instructions in the box.

                          Hoping I can EASILY reinstall pfsense from scratch and use my latest configuration backup for a quick setup.

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                            rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Wastapi
                            last edited by May 24, 2023, 2:24 AM

                            @Wastapi instructions:
                            plug in monitor
                            keyboard
                            USB drive
                            power

                            do things

                            Ryan
                            Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
                            Requesting firmware for your Netgate device? https://go.netgate.com
                            Switching: Mikrotik, Netgear, Extreme
                            Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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                              Dobby_ @Wastapi
                              last edited by May 24, 2023, 2:37 AM

                              @Wastapi said in Latest update failed - caught in login loop:

                              So I purchased this. https://a.co/d/8pTeH9O

                              Cool box, so I am really pretty sure you will be having fun with it together with pfSense.

                              As I was reading this from many other users, I would get hands on really good thermal paste an put some on the CPU, to getting something around 10 C°
                              cooler against the factory paste.

                              #~. @Dobby

                              Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                              PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                              PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                                Wastapi @Dobby_
                                last edited by May 24, 2023, 3:08 AM

                                @Dobby_ mmm I had not read about this. Please share links. I am not sure I want to void my warranty.

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                                  Dobby_ @Wastapi
                                  last edited by May 24, 2023, 3:38 AM

                                  @Wastapi said in Latest update failed - caught in login loop:

                                  mmm I had not read about this. Please share links. I am not sure I want to void my warranty.

                                  Thermal paste will be something you will be renewing for time to time again and again,
                                  otherwise you will be running in some heating
                                  problems, and this is more or less with any computers except servers that comes sorted
                                  with an thermal pad.

                                  Stay patient I will search the forum for find them back.

                                  #~. @Dobby

                                  Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                                  PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                                  PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                                    Wastapi @Dobby_
                                    last edited by May 25, 2023, 12:52 AM

                                    @Dobby_
                                    Ok. I was able to install it on the network. Breath of fresh air.

                                    Yet do I have to set it up from scratch or I can restore from a backup? Even if it’s completely different machine with different interfaces etc?

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