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      Cannondale
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      Thanks for the information johnpoz.
      Below is what my config looks like.
      Interfaces.png int 1 and 24 cli.png Port to Lan.png

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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        @cannondale Well that config is pretty borked to be honest.

        Your port connected to pfsense igb1 which your vlan runs on should be trunked with native vlan whatever your vlan is on your switch for your lan1 network, normally this would just be the native vlan 1. And vlan 10 allowed.

        The port connected to your device you want in vlan 10 should just be access mode in vlan 10, which would set the pvid to 10. Like my gi18 in my example.

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          Cannondale @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz
          Thanks for the additional information johnpoz. I found "native vlan" set to "none" for port 1 (pfsense igb1), which I have set to "1" with all vlans allowed.
          Port 24 (VLAN10) "vlan mode" was set to "Access" and "vlan id" was set to 10.

          So in summary, the only change that I made was "native vlan" set to from "none" to "1" for port 1 (pfsense igb1).
          However, I still do not see a DHCPREQUEST for the VLAN10 in the DHCP log.
          Did I understand you correctly?

          Screenshot from 2023-05-20 14-13-31.png

          Screenshot from 2023-05-20 14-14-10.png

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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            @cannondale On your port 1 connected to pfsense you have to allow it to send tagged vlan 10.. or no some access port you have on the switch in vlan 10 would never get to pfsense..

            Whatever vlan you want to use for lan1 native network in pfsense, this would be the native vlan you set on that port - switches would default to vlan 1. But maybe you want this network to be some other vlan on the switch, like my vlan 2 example I gave above.

            You would have untagged traffic going to this igb1 interface, this is the network that pfsense just has on the interface. you would then need to allow tagged vlan 10 on this same trunk port.

            Then any devices you want on your switch to be in vlan 10, you would set that port to access in vlan 10.

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              Cannondale
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              Thanks for your continued help johnpoz! I'm not a network engineer and muddling through this VLAN config on this Cisco switch for the first time.
              My current config is below but VLAN10 still does not seem to be working. Does the pfSense VLAN10 DHCP server need to be restarted after any switch config changes?

              sho run 1-24.png

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                @cannondale no you wouldn't have to restart.. What exactly do you have plugged into gi24, your not trying to set a vlan 10 on it are you?

                The pvid should be 10 on it as well, normally when you set to access it would set the pvid.

                But I don't see the switchport mode access actually set on your gi24 from your output.

                Only the access setting - it should show on gi24

                switchport mode access
                switchport access vlan 10
                

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                  Cannondale @johnpoz
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                  johnpoz, I currently have a Linux workstation plugged into port 24 (VLAN10) for testing.
                  Not sure why the cli is not showing switchport mode for port 24.
                  Here is what the WebGUI shows:

                  ge24 info.png

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                    @cannondale well if the client is not showing it - then its not set, just set the command at the cli

                    conf t
                    int gi24
                    switchport mode access
                    

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                      Cannondale @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      johnpoz, you may have missed it in the previous screenshot but the vlan mode for port 24 was set to "Access". I reset it in the cli as well be it did not make a difference in DHCP.

                      ge24 info2.png

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                        @cannondale I saw that but again lets see your cli output.. Which was not showing that it was in switchport mode..

                        This pretty basic stuff..

                        access vlan 10.. on port 24

                        Trunk port vlan 10 would be tagged..

                        Unless your tagging on your linux box the untagged traffic comes into port 24, the switch says oh this is vlan 10.. Oh its broadcast (dhcp) send it out on port 1 to pfsense, and any other ports that set to vlan 10 because its a broadcast.

                        So either the port is not correct as of yet, or its pvid is not 10? Or you have the client plugged into that port tagging 10 which wouldn't work.

                        Or you dhcp is not enabled?

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                          Cannondale @johnpoz
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                          johnpoz,

                          Here is the screenshot of the cli commands:

                          Screenshot from 2023-05-20 20-04-03.png

                          "So either the port is not correct as of yet, or its pvid is not 10?"
                          I don't believe that the pvid can be set on an Access port as there is no option on the WebGUI for pvid.

                          "Or you have the client plugged into that port tagging 10 which wouldn't work."
                          I currently have a Linux workstation plugged into port 24 (VLAN10).

                          "Or you dhcp is not enabled"
                          Screenshot from 2023-05-20 20-08-23.png

                          Screenshot from 2023-05-20 20-11-00.png

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                            @cannondale And again your cli is showing wrong... It should show that the interface is switchport mode..

                            Please set it to switchport mode via the cli. Oh looks like you did.. I would reset your interface then.. Your saying none of your interfaces in access mode show they are actually in switchport mode access?

                            Why are you trying to route???

                            Pfsense is your router - your switch would be layer 2 only..

                            I currently have a Linux workstation plugged into port 24 (VLAN10).

                            And you didn't set vlan 10 on its interface did you?

                            Can you post your full running config please.

                            Do you have smartport enabled? I would turn that off.

                            disable.jpg

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                              mvikman @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz
                              CLI output might be dependant of the switch software version
                              Don't know about the SG-series, but CBS-series switch software has the ports default mode as access and looks like the config only shows the switchport command when set to something other than access.
                              Maybe they decided to "cleanup" the config by hiding the commands that set the "default value"

                              This is snippet from my switch (CBS250) "sh run" with ports and vlans working as intended

                              interface GigabitEthernet1
                               description Firewall
                               switchport mode trunk 
                               switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20,25,30,35,40,50 
                              !
                              interface GigabitEthernet2
                               description "Wifi AP"
                               switchport mode trunk 
                               switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20,25,30,35,40,50 
                              !
                              interface GigabitEthernet3
                               description "Main PC"
                               switchport access vlan 20 
                              !
                              interface GigabitEthernet4
                               description HomeServer
                               switchport access vlan 20 
                              !
                              

                              pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                              Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                              Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                              HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
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                                Cannondale
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                                Thanks for your continued help johnpoz!
                                I have confirmed that smartport is disabled.
                                I'm not a network engineer but mvikman's explanation for why the cli is not displaying "switchport mode access" sounds reasonable as the WebGUI does show "switchport mode access" for port 24 (VLAN10).

                                Below is the output of my running config:

                                config-file-header
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1
                                v2.5.9.16 / RCBS3.1_930_871_108
                                CLI v1.0
                                file SSD indicator excluded
                                @
                                !
                                unit-type-control-start 
                                unit-type unit 1 network gi uplink none 
                                unit-type-control-end 
                                !
                                vlan database
                                vlan 10 
                                exit
                                voice vlan state auto-triggered 
                                voice vlan oui-table add 0001e3 Siemens_AG_phone________
                                voice vlan oui-table add 00036b Cisco_phone_____________
                                voice vlan oui-table add 00096e Avaya___________________
                                voice vlan oui-table add 000fe2 H3C_Aolynk______________
                                voice vlan oui-table add 0060b9 Philips_and_NEC_AG_phone
                                voice vlan oui-table add 00d01e Pingtel_phone___________
                                voice vlan oui-table add 00e075 Polycom/Veritel_phone___
                                voice vlan oui-table add 00e0bb 3Com_phone______________
                                no boot host auto-config 
                                no boot host auto-update 
                                no bonjour enable
                                bonjour interface range vlan 1
                                hostname Roth-SG250-50P-1
                                username jer password encrypted $86$5/Jf/f1pY8/95XGv$kPRdzeRMBXmEdsjyTZ1l4+OqCg9fuZ7uKSe5I7LV9IbcgUpUgGQXoGLMEO1AZF52onsZ3HTShH3OYBSXslXbVA== privilege 15 
                                username jer2 password encrypted $86$Jd6VBm9YYE9hsEqS$Wr7/T+o2oqDACWSHr0SNJrmwXG2QQ3MS+4EG1j6BknUM6Z8LMYb1/kokfIc3KefDaW5JkhtnW3+gJTnr3sbDJA== privilege 15 
                                username cisco password encrypted $86$/AkLn2WkB5AHHhIy$e/TgE126IBbIHLLsdMMw6ozjTovM1bR132PxH3lGmJeltzZ4U3ug9F3ZaUl+BclKIcE60h2j7Sn6o7RYksS53g== 
                                ip http timeout-policy 0 
                                clock timezone J -4
                                clock dhcp timezone
                                ip telnet server
                                !
                                interface vlan 10
                                 name "VL10" 
                                 no snmp trap link-status 
                                !
                                interface GigabitEthernet1
                                 switchport mode trunk 
                                 switchport trunk allowed vlan 10 
                                !
                                interface GigabitEthernet24
                                 switchport access vlan 10 
                                !
                                exit
                                
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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  @cannondale that doesn't seem like a full config..

                                  But what I would do is lets isolate if pfsense problem or switch problem - there is no way pfsense can hand out a dhcp if doesn't see it, and for it to see it the discover has to come in tagged for vlan 10.

                                  So I would do a packet capture via tcpdump on that interface on pfsense - do you see the tagged traffic come?

                                  example.. here tcpdump on my igb2 where I run tagged vlans.. See traffic from my tagged vlans 4 and 6, and there is stp that is not tagged

                                  
                                  [23.01-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: tcpdump -i igb2 -e
                                  tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
                                  listening on igb2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
                                  06:39:53.641566 68:57:2d:98:28:22 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, office3.local.lan.62514 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:53.681635 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20 (oui Unknown) > f8:e4:3b:72:18:bb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 174: vlan 6, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 165.225.60.29.https > TIAA-17503J3.local.lan.49373: UDP, length 128
                                  06:39:53.682349 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20 (oui Unknown) > f8:e4:3b:72:18:bb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 1292: vlan 6, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 165.225.60.29.https > TIAA-17503J3.local.lan.49373: UDP, length 1246
                                  06:39:53.684130 f8:e4:3b:72:18:bb (oui Unknown) > 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20 (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 139: vlan 6, p 0, ethertype IPv4, TIAA-17503J3.local.lan.49373 > 165.225.60.29.https: UDP, length 93
                                  06:39:53.694328 18:69:d8:39:e4:23 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, island2.local.lan.64137 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:53.706147 68:57:2d:98:36:83 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, office2.local.lan.62515 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:53.709447 50:14:79:d4:0f:11 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 60: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has sg4860.wpsk.local.lan (Broadcast) tell iRobot.local.lan, length 42
                                  06:39:53.709464 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20 (oui Unknown) > 50:14:79:d4:0f:11 (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype ARP, Reply sg4860.wpsk.local.lan is-at 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20 (oui Unknown), length 28
                                  06:39:53.786496 d4:a6:51:cf:c5:45 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, endtable.local.lan.58883 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:53.814764 d4:a6:51:cc:f7:a6 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, chair-lamp.local.lan.65202 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:53.819990 18:69:d8:3a:03:cd (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, island1.local.lan.52605 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:53.843301 18:69:d8:39:ed:ba (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 218: vlan 4, p 0, ethertype IPv4, D5.local.lan.59982 > 255.255.255.255.6667: UDP, length 172
                                  06:39:54.078536 70:6e:6d:f3:11:98 (oui Unknown) > 01:80:c2:00:00:00 (oui Unknown), 802.3, length 39: LLC, dsap STP (0x42) Individual, ssap STP (0x42) Command, ctrl 0x03: STP 802.1w, Rapid STP, Flags [Learn, Forward, Agreement], bridge-id 1000.70:6e:6d:f3:11:93.8035, length 43
                                  

                                  Make sure your client does a dhcp discover while your sniffing.. Do you see this traffic hit pfsense tagged vlan 10? If so then something wrong with pfsense. if it doesn't send a response - if you never see it, then something wrong downstream, your switch, the client, you sure your actually connected to port 24 and get a link light for example.

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                                    Cannondale
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                                    Thanks for the information johnpoz. Very helpful.
                                    I ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e. Note that ibg1 is my pfSence interface.
                                    While tcpdump was running, I unplugged and plugged the port 24 cable (VLAN10) that is connected to a Linux workstation.
                                    I then stopped tcpdump and cut and pasted the output into a text editor to search for "vlan" but found nothing.

                                    Also checked the pfSence DHCP log and did not see DHCPREQUEST for the VLAN.

                                    To double check the workstation connection, I plugged the workstation into another switch port and got an DHCP IP as normal. Then reconnected to port 24 (VLAN10).

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                                      @cannondale well if pfsense never sees anything come in tagged 10, then how would its vlan 10 ever hand out a dhcp address.

                                      You got something funky going on in your switch I would say.. Its not a difficult config..

                                      pfsense -- untagged/vlan 10 tagged -- switch -- untagged vlan 10 -- client

                                      Your saying client in another port that is just default vlan 1 and untagged work fine.. But its not tagging traffic to pfsense when it should on vlan 10.

                                      I am with you that you shouldn't have to set pvid, and ok your switch cli doesn't show switchport mode access in the client.. But something is broken if pfsense is not seeing traffic.

                                      Can you do a show vlan on your sg250? I can on my sg300

                                      sg300-28#sho vlan
                                      Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                      
                                      Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                                      ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                                       1           1                                                      S         
                                       2         Wlan        gi7,gi14,gi24,gi26 gi5,gi9,gi11,             S         
                                                                                gi15-16,gi19                        
                                       3          DMZ          gi7,gi14,gi16       gi3,gi6,gi24           S         
                                       4         W_PSK       gi5,gi7,gi9,              gi27               S         
                                                             gi11-12,gi15-16,                                       
                                                             gi24                                                   
                                       6        W_Guest      gi5,gi7,gi9,            gi2,gi18             S         
                                                             gi11-12,gi15-16,                                       
                                                             gi24                                                   
                                       7        W_Roku       gi7,gi9,gi11,             gi8                S         
                                                             gi15-16,gi24                                           
                                       9           9         gi9,gi11,gi15-16,  gi4,gi7,gi10,gi12,        D         
                                                             gi24               gi14,gi17,gi20,                     
                                                                                gi26,Po1-8                          
                                       10      disabled                         gi21-23,gi25,gi28         S         
                                       99         wan                                gi1,gi13             S         
                                      172       transit                                                   S         
                                      
                                      sg300-28#
                                      
                                      

                                      is your vlan 10 maybe disabled?

                                      What does it show for pvid, I agree it should auto set to 10 when you set the port to access.

                                      Do you have these tables in your gui - where you can see the pvid, and you that the vlan is operational, etc.

                                      gui.jpg

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                                        Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz

                                        Here is the results of show vlan:
                                        Screenshot from 2023-05-21 09-15-29.png

                                        Interface settings:
                                        Screenshot from 2023-05-21 09-18-35.png

                                        Port VLAN Membership:
                                        Screenshot from 2023-05-21 09-19-55.png

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          @cannondale Ok how would your untagged lan1 network even work with this setup.

                                          Your pfsense is connected to port 1 right?

                                          But you don't have vlan 1 on this port - so how is untagged traffic getting to pfsense you said you plugged into another port and got an IP on your lan network.

                                          wrong.jpg

                                          is that a UI, with the I meaning inactive..

                                          edit: also where is your pvid listing? Your table shows a P for PVID, but your output doesn't show any - see how mine marks what the pvid

                                          pvid.jpg

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                                            Cannondale
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                                            Yes pfSense is connected to port 1 of the switch. There are many other machines/devices currently connected to this switch on LAN1 (igb1). All work as expected and have been for months. Only the newly created VLAN10 on port 24 does not work.
                                            I plugged the workstation (connect to port 24 (VLAN10)) into another switch port and got an DHCP IP as a test to confirm that the workstation was requesting an IP from DHCP on LAN1 (igb1).

                                            @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                            also where is your pvid listing? Your table shows a P for PVID

                                            Not sure why the GUI does not show the PVID in the table on the membership page.
                                            However, it does show PVID under the Customer Mode if I select port 24 and display the membership port details page:

                                            Screenshot from 2023-05-21 09-48-00.png

                                            I suspect that the GUI displays the PVID in the membership table depending on the port mode but that's just a guess!

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