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    No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch

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      pete35 @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz

      I would really like to know the issue here. CBS350 or Catalyst 1000 is the better modern choice for this switches. SG250 is really old in terms of Cisco switches. Most of the models arent supported anymore by new firmware versions. Vlans are are working for pfsense and also for this Cisco switch. So there must be a issue between them or on layer 8 maybe.

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        Cannondale @pete35
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        Thanks for your efforts pete35! Very interesting information.
        Not familiar with wireshark. Will install it and see what I can find.

        I did check the pfSense DHCP log for DHCPREQUEST on the vlan20 IP but don't see anything. Just the entry for "Listening on BPF/igb1"

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          pete35 @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz @Cannondale

          pls reboot that switch:

          393b7dae-4799-4e45-bab2-e0defb11f3fe-image.png

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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            @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

            anymore by new firmware versions

            The sg250 seems to have gotten a firmware release quite recent.

            firmware.jpg

            My own sg300 hasn't had one since 18-Jun-2020

            Pretty sure he has rebooted - since I know he changed firmwares at one point, etc.

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              mvikman
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              He originally had the latest firmware installed

              Roth-SG250-50P-1
              v2.5.9.16 / RCBS3.1_930_871_10
              

              Also his latest "show tech" shows that firmware 2.5.9.16 is active

              ------------------ show version ------------------
              Active-image: flash://system/images/image_tesla250_hybrid_2.5.9.16_release_cisco_signed.bin
                Version: 2.5.9.16
                MD5 Digest: c1f283dd662260f1532ef8cb26158014
                Date: 27-Feb-2023
                Time: 16:57:47
              Inactive-image: flash://system/images/SG250-50P-Firmware_Backup_v2.4.0.94-image1-20230428.bin
                Version: 2.4.0.94
                MD5 Digest: 6f5be217100f34929986f2e93dd2d5e9
                Date: 31-May-2018
                Time: 02:39:58
              

              pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
              Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
              Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
              HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
              HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                Cannondale @mvikman
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                @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                He originally had the latest firmware installed

                Confirmed the latest fw is active.

                Screenshot from 2023-05-24 07-35-03.png

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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                  @mvikman yeah he has gone to older firmware at one point

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                    Cannondale @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                    Just ordered a sg250-08HP off ebay

                    You're a stand up guy for going the extra mile johnpoz!
                    No need to spend your money to help solve my problem!
                    PM me and let me know how much it was so that I can reimburse you.

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                      pete35 @Cannondale
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                      @Cannondale
                      i tought the same. Johnpoz is great.

                      can you post the whole page of the vlan 10 interface configuration on the firewall ?

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                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @pete35
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                        If you pcap on the parent interface you will see all the VLAN tags there along with all traffic on all VLANs. If you pcap on the VLAN interface you will not see the tags.

                        I sometimes create unnumbered pfSense interfaces on the parent (IPv4 and IPv6 set to None) just so I can pcap there.

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                          Cannondale @pete35
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                          @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                          can you post the whole page of the vlan 10 interface configuration on the firewall ?

                          vlan10 is configured for access mode on ge24
                          vlan20 is configured for general mode on ge20

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                            pete35 @Derelict
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                            @Derelict
                            thank you. i already found it. Wireshark shows the vlan tag under each packet. yo need to open a packet to see the vlan 802.1q information.

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                              pete35 @Cannondale
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                              @Cannondale

                              Maybe we can do another configuration:

                              if you have a free port on your Pfsense, just configure it as LAN port with the IP address of your VLAN 10, first clear that VLAN 10 interface including that DHCP Server. Then configure two ports on the switch as access port in vlan 10. Connect one port directly to the second/new LAN port of pfsense, the other one to your workstation. You need to configure the DHCP Server at the new LAN port.

                              Your workstation should be able to get an IP DHCP address from Pfsense in this VLAN 10.

                              So no tagging is needed, if that is an issue with that switch.

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                                Cannondale @pete35
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                                @pete35
                                wireshark doesn't seem to be noob friendly. I'm in a "packets must be specified" loop!

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                                  Cannondale @pete35
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                                  @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                  Maybe we can do another configuration

                                  Working on it now

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                                    Cannondale @pete35
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                                    @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                    Your workstation should be able to get an IP DHCP address from Pfsense in this VLAN 10

                                    Got a vlan10 IP on the workstation. Didn't need to reconfigure the switch for vlan10 as port 23 and 24 were already configured for vlan10.

                                    sw vlan.png

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                                      pete35 @Cannondale
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                                      @Cannondale
                                      That sounds good. Add more vlan 10 access ports to connect your servers and so on.
                                      Until you find another solution with that tagging issue, this is as good as a trunked port and seperates the traffic.
                                      Dont forget to add some firewall rules to limit the access to vlan 10 if you need this. Pfsense will route between Vlans.

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                                        pete35 @Cannondale
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                                        @Cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                        wireshark doesn't seem to be noob friendly. I'm in a "packets must be specified" loop!

                                        @Cannondale
                                        this sounds interesting. if you startup wireshark on your interface of a workstation, it should work out of the box. So maybe there is something crazy on your network at all. Did you select the correct running interface?

                                        if you generate a tcpdump file with "tcpdump -i interface -e -w dumpfile.pcap" you can open it with wireshark and you can save captured wireshark packets into a file for later analysis.

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                                          Cannondale @pete35
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                                          @pete35
                                          Plugged the test Linux workstation into switch port 20 (vlan20).
                                          I was able to create a dumpfile.pcap file on pfSense and open it on another machine in Wireshark. As a non-Network Engineer, what should I look for?

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                                            Cannondale @pete35
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                                            @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                            if you startup wireshark on your interface of a workstation, it should work out of the box.

                                            This is what I was seeing after entering some host information:

                                            wireshark.png

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