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    No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch

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      Cannondale @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

      Just ordered a sg250-08HP off ebay

      You're a stand up guy for going the extra mile johnpoz!
      No need to spend your money to help solve my problem!
      PM me and let me know how much it was so that I can reimburse you.

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        pete35 @Cannondale
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        @Cannondale
        i tought the same. Johnpoz is great.

        can you post the whole page of the vlan 10 interface configuration on the firewall ?

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          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @pete35
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          If you pcap on the parent interface you will see all the VLAN tags there along with all traffic on all VLANs. If you pcap on the VLAN interface you will not see the tags.

          I sometimes create unnumbered pfSense interfaces on the parent (IPv4 and IPv6 set to None) just so I can pcap there.

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            Cannondale @pete35
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            @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

            can you post the whole page of the vlan 10 interface configuration on the firewall ?

            vlan10 is configured for access mode on ge24
            vlan20 is configured for general mode on ge20

            Screenshot from 2023-05-24 08-33-22.png

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              pete35 @Derelict
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              @Derelict
              thank you. i already found it. Wireshark shows the vlan tag under each packet. yo need to open a packet to see the vlan 802.1q information.

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                pete35 @Cannondale
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                Maybe we can do another configuration:

                if you have a free port on your Pfsense, just configure it as LAN port with the IP address of your VLAN 10, first clear that VLAN 10 interface including that DHCP Server. Then configure two ports on the switch as access port in vlan 10. Connect one port directly to the second/new LAN port of pfsense, the other one to your workstation. You need to configure the DHCP Server at the new LAN port.

                Your workstation should be able to get an IP DHCP address from Pfsense in this VLAN 10.

                So no tagging is needed, if that is an issue with that switch.

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                  Cannondale @pete35
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                  @pete35
                  wireshark doesn't seem to be noob friendly. I'm in a "packets must be specified" loop!

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                    Cannondale @pete35
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                    @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                    Maybe we can do another configuration

                    Working on it now

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                      Cannondale @pete35
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                      @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                      Your workstation should be able to get an IP DHCP address from Pfsense in this VLAN 10

                      Got a vlan10 IP on the workstation. Didn't need to reconfigure the switch for vlan10 as port 23 and 24 were already configured for vlan10.

                      sw vlan.png

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                        pete35 @Cannondale
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                        @Cannondale
                        That sounds good. Add more vlan 10 access ports to connect your servers and so on.
                        Until you find another solution with that tagging issue, this is as good as a trunked port and seperates the traffic.
                        Dont forget to add some firewall rules to limit the access to vlan 10 if you need this. Pfsense will route between Vlans.

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                          pete35 @Cannondale
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                          @Cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                          wireshark doesn't seem to be noob friendly. I'm in a "packets must be specified" loop!

                          @Cannondale
                          this sounds interesting. if you startup wireshark on your interface of a workstation, it should work out of the box. So maybe there is something crazy on your network at all. Did you select the correct running interface?

                          if you generate a tcpdump file with "tcpdump -i interface -e -w dumpfile.pcap" you can open it with wireshark and you can save captured wireshark packets into a file for later analysis.

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                            Cannondale @pete35
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                            @pete35
                            Plugged the test Linux workstation into switch port 20 (vlan20).
                            I was able to create a dumpfile.pcap file on pfSense and open it on another machine in Wireshark. As a non-Network Engineer, what should I look for?

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                              Cannondale @pete35
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                              @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                              if you startup wireshark on your interface of a workstation, it should work out of the box.

                              This is what I was seeing after entering some host information:

                              wireshark.png

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                                pete35 @Cannondale
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                                looks like it needs some more parameters on startup or needs some more priviledges (root?)
                                check the "-c" parameter and maybe check all this here:
                                https://adamtheautomator.com/wireshark-linux/

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                                  pete35 @Cannondale
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                                  @Cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                  Plugged the test Linux workstation into switch port 20 (vlan20).

                                  Do you need another vlan ? Or is this just for investigation?
                                  You can configure another vlan with the same trick, if you have more interfaces on the pfsense.

                                  If you can, you may wipe out the whole configuration on the switch and reset it to an initial state. Configure it then only on the GUI. There are a lot of configuration options, maybe not shown on the cli. So if something is hidden, it may influence this crazy vlan issue.

                                  https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/csbss/sf_sg250/quick_start/guide/en_US/78-100762-01A0.pdf

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                                    Cannondale @pete35
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                                    @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                    Do you need another vlan ? Or is this just for investigation?

                                    Both. Ultimately need to confirm whether the switch is having an issue with tags. If not a config issue, I will replace it.

                                    @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                    You can configure another vlan with the same trick, if you have more interfaces on the pfsense.

                                    Understood. I'm not a network expert but I recall that this is called segmentation. My quad port card in the pfSence server is full now. It appears that using additional NIC ports to segregate the LAN is a hardware approach as opposed to the vlan approach. My preference would be to use vlans unless a particular use case suggests that segmentation would work better.

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                                      Cannondale @pete35
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                                      @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                      looks like it needs some more parameters on startup or needs some more priviledges (root?)
                                      check the "-c" parameter and maybe check all this here:
                                      https://adamtheautomator.com/wireshark-linux/

                                      Thanks for the link! I'll check it out.

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                                        Jarhead @Cannondale
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                                        @Cannondale I just skimmed this thread so I may have missed it but have you tried putting 2 ports in the same vlan and see if they can communicate?

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                                          Cannondale @Jarhead
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                                          @Jarhead said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                          have you tried putting 2 ports in the same vlan and see if they can communicate?

                                          Thanks for chiming in Jarhead. Yes. Two untagged ports can communicate on a vlan. One connected to pfSense and the other connected to a Linux workstation.

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            @Cannondale Ok my sg250-08HP just got here.. clickly clicky running a vlan10..

                                            So either your switch is borked or you are doing something odd that we are missing... I didn't do anything to the switch other than boot it, give it an IP 192.168.200.9.. Plugged it into my igb4 interface that has 192.168.200.1/24

                                            Setup a vlan with 172.16.10.253/24 enabled dhcp..

                                            settingss.jpg

                                            switchf65809#term datadump                            
                                            switchf65809#sho run
                                            config-file-header
                                            switchf65809
                                            v2.5.8.15 / RCBS3.1_930_871_084
                                            CLI v1.0
                                            file SSD indicator encrypted
                                            @
                                            ssd-control-start
                                            ssd config
                                            ssd file passphrase control unrestricted
                                            no ssd file integrity control
                                            ssd-control-end cb0a3fdb1f3a1af4e4430033719968c0
                                            !
                                            !
                                            unit-type-control-start
                                            unit-type unit 1 network gi uplink none
                                            unit-type-control-end
                                            !
                                            vlan database
                                            vlan 10
                                            exit
                                            voice vlan state auto-triggered
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 0001e3 Siemens_AG_phone
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 00036b Cisco_phone
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 00096e Avaya
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 000fe2 H3C_Aolynk
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 0060b9 Philips_and_NEC_AG_phone
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 00d01e Pingtel_phone
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 00e075 Polycom/Veritel_phone
                                            voice vlan oui-table add 00e0bb 3Com_phone
                                            hostname switchf65809
                                            username user password encrypted $15$RNkCnVXJLcID4IKT$EDhJvPxPXJSsrsKvB8y0SMuwEaQn2SVckrVGzq6WfpOactj45CrUSHkc7nLpQAuAkdP72MS+2pTULQy7rIavcg== privilege 15
                                            ip ssh server
                                            sntp server 192.168.3.32 poll
                                            ip name-server  192.168.200.1
                                            !
                                            interface vlan 1
                                             ip address 192.168.200.9 255.255.255.0
                                             no ip address dhcp
                                            !
                                            interface GigabitEthernet1
                                             switchport mode trunk
                                             switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,10
                                            !
                                            interface GigabitEthernet8
                                             switchport access vlan 10
                                            !
                                            exit
                                            macro auto controlled
                                            ip default-gateway 192.168.200.1
                                            switchf65809#
                                            

                                            Now its currently running 2.5.8.15, plug into port 8 get an IP on the 172.16.10 network, plug into port 7 get an IP of vlan 1, 192.168.200..

                                            Going to update it to latest version - brb

                                            edit: ok back on 2.5.9.16, all working just fine..

                                            edit2: here is the dhcp from client I plugged into port 8 on the sg250, you can see it got an IP from my vlan 10 I setup on pfsense

                                            May 27 17:09:49 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPACK on 172.16.10.11 to d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10
                                            May 27 17:09:49 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPREQUEST for 172.16.10.11 (172.16.10.253) from d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10
                                            May 27 17:09:49 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPOFFER on 172.16.10.11 to d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10
                                            May 27 17:09:48 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPDISCOVER from d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10 
                                            

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