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No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch

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    Cannondale @johnpoz
    last edited by May 31, 2023, 10:32 AM

    @johnpoz

    Sorry for the delay in responding. Just got back into town after traveling. Thanks for the additional information. Very helpful!
    I have an SG300 that arrived yesterday and still in a box. Will spark it up today to see what I find and report back.

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
      last edited by johnpoz May 31, 2023, 10:47 AM May 31, 2023, 10:39 AM

      @Cannondale one thing nice about the sg300 is shows pvid info ;)

      Both in the gui, and from cli

      That the gui lists P in the legend, but then doesn't show it, and the cli showing this confusing as hell

      Port : gi8
      Port Mode: 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
       10                 10                 Untagged          S         
      

      When I look at a interface with vlan on my sg300

      Port : gi1
      Port Mode: Access 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 99
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
       99                wan                 Untagged          S         
      
       
      Forbidden VLANS: 
      Vlan               Name               
      ---- -------------------------------- 
      
      

      That being said - I had no issues setting a interface to access in a vlan on the sg250, and it working as it should with the vlan tagged to pfsense via "trunk" port.. Even though the cli output is bonkers ;)

      There is clearly room for improvement in the info they show in the gui and the cli on the 250.. Why is showing the ingress untagged vlan as 1, when clearly that could not be the case if the interface is access in vlan 10..

      Notice on the 300, it shows the native same as the vlan used for egress as untagged.

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        Cannondale @johnpoz
        last edited by May 31, 2023, 3:32 PM

        @johnpoz Got the SG300 up and running. Firmware and boot code were quite old (fw 1.2.9.44 and bc 1.1.0.6).
        Upgraded both to the latest releases (fw 1.4.11.5 and bc 1.3.5.06), which was a feat in it self! Too bad Cisco hasn’t upgraded the firmware in the last three years!

        P in the legend, but then doesn't show it, and the cli showing this confusing as hell

        I definitely see what you mean!

        Created the following test vlans on the switch:
        Note: igb1 is the Main Lan in pfSense

        VLAN10 (Test1)
        Switch port 23, Trunk mode, Tagged, connected to pfSense VLAN10 (igb2)
        Switch port 24, Access mode, Untagged, connected to Linux workstation
        Wide open firewall rule for VLAN10

        Test results: DHCP works as expected and provides Linux workstation IP

        VLAN20 (Test2)
        Switch port 51, Trunk mode, Tagged, connected to pfSense igb1 (Main Lan)
        Switch port 46, Access mode, Untagged, connected to Linux workstation
        Wide open firewall rule for VLAN20

        Test results: No DHCPREQUEST in pfSense DHCP log, no IP provided to Linux workstation

        I must be missing something stupid simple?

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          mvikman @Cannondale
          last edited by May 31, 2023, 3:56 PM

          @Cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

          Upgraded both to the latest releases (fw 1.4.11.5 and bc 1.3.5.06), which was a feat in it self! Too bad Cisco hasn’t upgraded the firmware in the last three years!

          Well, It has been in End-of-Sale since October 2018, End of Software Maintenance was October 2019 and End of Support is October 2023.
          https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/small-business-300-series-managed-switches/eos-eol-notice-c51-740542.html


          So the Main LAN still works from the igb1, but just not the VLAN using that same igb1?

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            Cannondale @mvikman
            last edited by May 31, 2023, 4:01 PM

            @mvikman

            Well, It has been in End-of-Sale since October 2018, End of Software Maintenance was October 2019 and End of Support is October 2023.

            Interestingly, the SG250 has roughly the same End Dates and had a firmware date of 4/2023.

            So the Main LAN still works from the igb1, but just not the VLAN using that same igb1?

            Yes that is correct.

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              mvikman @Cannondale
              last edited by May 31, 2023, 4:05 PM

              @Cannondale Hmm... Compared to mine, the pfSense config looks to be ok to me.

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                mvikman @johnpoz
                last edited by mvikman May 31, 2023, 4:15 PM May 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

                @johnpoz Looks like that the CBS-series (and probably also the SG250) only uses/shows the pvid when the port is set to General Mode...
                I set GE5 into General Mode and it now shows 1P
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                  Cannondale @mvikman
                  last edited by May 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

                  @mvikman

                  Looks like that the CBS-series (and probably also the SG250) only uses/shows the pvid when the port is set to General Mode...
                  I set GE5 into General Mode and it now shows 1P

                  I saw the same thing with theSG250.

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                    mvikman @Cannondale
                    last edited by mvikman May 31, 2023, 4:23 PM May 31, 2023, 4:22 PM

                    @Cannondale

                    If you put both VLAN10 and VLAN20 on the igb2, can you get both to work through the switches untagged ports?

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                    Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                    HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                    HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                      Cannondale @mvikman
                      last edited by May 31, 2023, 4:43 PM

                      @mvikman

                      If you put both VLAN10 and VLAN20 on the igb2, can you get both to work through the switches untagged ports?

                      Yes. This works as expected.

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                        mvikman
                        last edited by May 31, 2023, 5:18 PM

                        Ok, so something gets messed up when there is both tagged and untagged traffic to the port.

                        I have all my LAN networks in pfSense as VLANS, so everything is tagged. I believe this is also the recommended method.

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                          Cannondale @mvikman
                          last edited by May 31, 2023, 5:49 PM

                          @mvikman Thanks for the additional information.

                          I have all my LAN networks in pfSense as VLANS, so everything is tagged.

                          To clarify, you have all of your vlans on switch port gi1, which is connected to your pfSense lan port?

                          If yes, I should be able to disable my vlan10 (on igb2), which would leave only vlan20 on my igb1 (pfSense lan) and would match your config. Correct?
                          Would be an easy test.

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                            mvikman @Cannondale
                            last edited by May 31, 2023, 7:00 PM

                            @Cannondale Yes GE1 port is a trunk to pfSense

                            My pfSense interfaces
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                              Cannondale @mvikman
                              last edited by May 31, 2023, 7:25 PM

                              @mvikman Thanks for the confirmation.
                              As a test, I disabled the pfSense VLAN10 interface on igb2.
                              I also removed VLAN10 from port 23 on the switch.
                              This left only VLAN20 on my igb1 (pfSense lan) interface.
                              Unfortunately, the test failed. It didn't make a difference in getting an IP on VLAN20 from DHCP.

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                                pete35 @Cannondale
                                last edited by pete35 May 31, 2023, 7:45 PM May 31, 2023, 7:39 PM

                                @Cannondale
                                Somehow your switch configs are a miracle. Can you post your the routing table / standard gateway of that switch? Is routing disabled/enabled?

                                Pls show all the firewall rules, not in edit mode.... also the floating rules just to see how the rules are in the rows.

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                                  Cannondale @pete35
                                  last edited by May 31, 2023, 8:07 PM

                                  @pete35

                                  Can you post your the routing table

                                  #show ip route
                                  Maximum Parallel Paths: 1 (1 after reset)
                                  IP Forwarding: disabled
                                  Codes: > - best, C - connected, S - static
                                  
                                  D   0.0.0.0/0 [1/2] via 192.168.0.201, 47:42:32, vlan 1                    
                                  C   192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, vlan 1
                                  

                                  Is routing disabled/enabled?
                                  What is the cli command to confirm?

                                  Pls show all the firewall rules, not in edit mode.... also the floating rules just to see how the rules are in the rows.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                    last edited by johnpoz May 31, 2023, 8:53 PM May 31, 2023, 8:51 PM

                                    @Cannondale the rules have zero to do with dhcp.. Once you enable dhcp the hidden rules would allow it..

                                    So your saying is when you have tagged 10 and 20 on igb2 with no native untagged nework on this interface both 10 and 20 work.

                                    But if you put 10 and 20 tagged on igb1 that has a native network on it - the tagged vlans don't work?

                                    Post the output of your ifconfig on pfsense..

                                    example here is mine..

                                    igb2: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                            description: WLAN
                                            options=4e120bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,NOMAP>
                                            ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
                                            inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                                            inet 192.168.2.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
                                            media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                            status: active
                                            nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                    
                                    igb2.4: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                            description: W_PSK
                                            options=4600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,NOMAP>
                                            ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
                                            inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2.4 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
                                            inet 192.168.4.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.4.255
                                            groups: vlan
                                            vlan: 4 vlanproto: 802.1q vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                            media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                            status: active
                                            nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                    igb2.6: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                            description: W_Guest
                                            options=4600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,NOMAP>
                                            ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
                                            inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2.6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc
                                            inet 192.168.6.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255
                                            groups: vlan
                                            vlan: 6 vlanproto: 802.1q vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                            media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                            status: active
                                            nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                    

                                    I am curious to the options you have set on the parent interface mostly.

                                    if you do a pcap with tcpdump on ig2 do you see the tags with the -e flag, but when you do that on igb1 you dont?

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                                      Cannondale @johnpoz
                                      last edited by May 31, 2023, 9:04 PM

                                      @johnpoz

                                      So your saying is when you have tagged 10 and 20 on igb2 with no native untagged nework on this interface both 10 and 20 work.

                                      Correct

                                      But if you put 10 and 20 tagged on igb1 that has a native network on it - the tagged vlans don't work?

                                      Actually, what I tried first was vlan10 on igb2 and vlan20 on ibg1, In this config, only vlan10 works.

                                      Second test was vlan10 and vlan20 on igb2. Both work.

                                      Third test was disable vlan10 and put vlan20 on igb1. This does not work. Similar to first test.

                                      How do I display the pfSense ifconfig? Don't see it in the menu.

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                                        Cannondale @johnpoz
                                        last edited by Cannondale May 31, 2023, 9:15 PM May 31, 2023, 9:14 PM

                                        @johnpoz

                                        Post the output of your ifconfig on pfsense

                                        Found it.

                                        igb0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: WAN
                                        	options=e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                        	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:30
                                        	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5030%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                        	inet 71.46.127.170 netmask 0xfffff000 broadcast 255.255.255.255
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        igb1: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: Lan1
                                        	options=e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                        	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:31
                                        	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5031%igb1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                                        	inet 192.168.0.201 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        igb2: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: WiFiUAP
                                        	options=e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                        	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:34
                                        	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5034%igb2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        
                                        igb2.10: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: VLAN10
                                        	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                        	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:34
                                        	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5034%igb2.10 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xf
                                        	inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255
                                        	groups: vlan
                                        	vlan: 10 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        igb1.20: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: VLAN20
                                        	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                        	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:31
                                        	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5031%igb1.20 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x10
                                        	inet 192.168.20.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.20.255
                                        	groups: vlan
                                        	vlan: 20 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb1
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        
                                        
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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                          last edited by May 31, 2023, 9:18 PM

                                          @Cannondale your not testing this with AP are you.. Your putting actual devices on the ports that are in access mode.. I see a description of wifiUAP..

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