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      Cannondale @mvikman
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      @mvikman

      Well, It has been in End-of-Sale since October 2018, End of Software Maintenance was October 2019 and End of Support is October 2023.

      Interestingly, the SG250 has roughly the same End Dates and had a firmware date of 4/2023.

      So the Main LAN still works from the igb1, but just not the VLAN using that same igb1?

      Yes that is correct.

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        mvikman @Cannondale
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        @Cannondale Hmm... Compared to mine, the pfSense config looks to be ok to me.

        pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
        Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
        Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
        HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
        HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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          mvikman @johnpoz
          last edited by mvikman

          @johnpoz Looks like that the CBS-series (and probably also the SG250) only uses/shows the pvid when the port is set to General Mode...
          I set GE5 into General Mode and it now shows 1P
          b2690716-561f-4dd3-b503-df38c458e004-image.png

          pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
          Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
          Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
          HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
          HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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            Cannondale @mvikman
            last edited by

            @mvikman

            Looks like that the CBS-series (and probably also the SG250) only uses/shows the pvid when the port is set to General Mode...
            I set GE5 into General Mode and it now shows 1P

            I saw the same thing with theSG250.

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              mvikman @Cannondale
              last edited by mvikman

              @Cannondale

              If you put both VLAN10 and VLAN20 on the igb2, can you get both to work through the switches untagged ports?

              pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
              Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
              Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
              HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
              HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                Cannondale @mvikman
                last edited by

                @mvikman

                If you put both VLAN10 and VLAN20 on the igb2, can you get both to work through the switches untagged ports?

                Yes. This works as expected.

                pfs int ass2.png

                sw p23 24 46.png

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                  mvikman
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                  Ok, so something gets messed up when there is both tagged and untagged traffic to the port.

                  I have all my LAN networks in pfSense as VLANS, so everything is tagged. I believe this is also the recommended method.

                  pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                  Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                  Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                  HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                  HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                    Cannondale @mvikman
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                    @mvikman Thanks for the additional information.

                    I have all my LAN networks in pfSense as VLANS, so everything is tagged.

                    To clarify, you have all of your vlans on switch port gi1, which is connected to your pfSense lan port?

                    If yes, I should be able to disable my vlan10 (on igb2), which would leave only vlan20 on my igb1 (pfSense lan) and would match your config. Correct?
                    Would be an easy test.

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                      mvikman @Cannondale
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                      @Cannondale Yes GE1 port is a trunk to pfSense

                      My pfSense interfaces
                      b45d9b5e-9b96-49c6-8a55-77c012c46fec-image.png

                      pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                      Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                      Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                      HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                      HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                        Cannondale @mvikman
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                        @mvikman Thanks for the confirmation.
                        As a test, I disabled the pfSense VLAN10 interface on igb2.
                        I also removed VLAN10 from port 23 on the switch.
                        This left only VLAN20 on my igb1 (pfSense lan) interface.
                        Unfortunately, the test failed. It didn't make a difference in getting an IP on VLAN20 from DHCP.

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                          pete35 @Cannondale
                          last edited by pete35

                          @Cannondale
                          Somehow your switch configs are a miracle. Can you post your the routing table / standard gateway of that switch? Is routing disabled/enabled?

                          Pls show all the firewall rules, not in edit mode.... also the floating rules just to see how the rules are in the rows.

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                            Cannondale @pete35
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                            @pete35

                            Can you post your the routing table

                            #show ip route
                            Maximum Parallel Paths: 1 (1 after reset)
                            IP Forwarding: disabled
                            Codes: > - best, C - connected, S - static
                            
                            D   0.0.0.0/0 [1/2] via 192.168.0.201, 47:42:32, vlan 1                    
                            C   192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, vlan 1
                            

                            Is routing disabled/enabled?
                            What is the cli command to confirm?

                            Pls show all the firewall rules, not in edit mode.... also the floating rules just to see how the rules are in the rows.

                            vl20 rules.png

                            floating rules.png

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              @Cannondale the rules have zero to do with dhcp.. Once you enable dhcp the hidden rules would allow it..

                              So your saying is when you have tagged 10 and 20 on igb2 with no native untagged nework on this interface both 10 and 20 work.

                              But if you put 10 and 20 tagged on igb1 that has a native network on it - the tagged vlans don't work?

                              Post the output of your ifconfig on pfsense..

                              example here is mine..

                              igb2: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                      description: WLAN
                                      options=4e120bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,NOMAP>
                                      ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
                                      inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                                      inet 192.168.2.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
                                      media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                      status: active
                                      nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                              
                              igb2.4: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                      description: W_PSK
                                      options=4600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,NOMAP>
                                      ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
                                      inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2.4 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
                                      inet 192.168.4.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.4.255
                                      groups: vlan
                                      vlan: 4 vlanproto: 802.1q vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                      media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                      status: active
                                      nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                              igb2.6: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                      description: W_Guest
                                      options=4600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,NOMAP>
                                      ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
                                      inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2.6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc
                                      inet 192.168.6.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255
                                      groups: vlan
                                      vlan: 6 vlanproto: 802.1q vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                      media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                      status: active
                                      nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                              

                              I am curious to the options you have set on the parent interface mostly.

                              if you do a pcap with tcpdump on ig2 do you see the tags with the -e flag, but when you do that on igb1 you dont?

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                                Cannondale @johnpoz
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz

                                So your saying is when you have tagged 10 and 20 on igb2 with no native untagged nework on this interface both 10 and 20 work.

                                Correct

                                But if you put 10 and 20 tagged on igb1 that has a native network on it - the tagged vlans don't work?

                                Actually, what I tried first was vlan10 on igb2 and vlan20 on ibg1, In this config, only vlan10 works.

                                Second test was vlan10 and vlan20 on igb2. Both work.

                                Third test was disable vlan10 and put vlan20 on igb1. This does not work. Similar to first test.

                                How do I display the pfSense ifconfig? Don't see it in the menu.

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                                  Cannondale @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Cannondale

                                  @johnpoz

                                  Post the output of your ifconfig on pfsense

                                  Found it.

                                  igb0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                  	description: WAN
                                  	options=e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                  	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:30
                                  	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5030%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                  	inet 71.46.127.170 netmask 0xfffff000 broadcast 255.255.255.255
                                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                  	status: active
                                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                  igb1: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                  	description: Lan1
                                  	options=e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                  	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:31
                                  	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5031%igb1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                                  	inet 192.168.0.201 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
                                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                  	status: active
                                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                  igb2: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                  	description: WiFiUAP
                                  	options=e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                  	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:34
                                  	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5034%igb2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                  	status: active
                                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                  
                                  igb2.10: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                  	description: VLAN10
                                  	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                  	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:34
                                  	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5034%igb2.10 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xf
                                  	inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255
                                  	groups: vlan
                                  	vlan: 10 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                  	status: active
                                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                  igb1.20: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                  	description: VLAN20
                                  	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                  	ether 00:1b:21:b7:50:31
                                  	inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:feb7:5031%igb1.20 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x10
                                  	inet 192.168.20.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.20.255
                                  	groups: vlan
                                  	vlan: 20 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb1
                                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                  	status: active
                                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                  
                                  
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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                                    @Cannondale your not testing this with AP are you.. Your putting actual devices on the ports that are in access mode.. I see a description of wifiUAP..

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                                      Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz

                                      your not testing this with AP are you.

                                      No. I'm plugging in a Linux workstation to vlan20.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @Cannondale so this lan1, you don't have it in a bridge or something do you?

                                        This makes zero sense really.. There should be nothing in the switch that should care if there a native untagged network on the port..

                                        the only thing that jumps out at me as different from your options is mine has NOMAP - but not exactly sure what that option is, can not seem to find any info on it in quick google.

                                        edit:
                                        Why do you not have?

                                        vlan: 6 vlanproto: 802.1q vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2

                                        See where mine shows 802.1q??

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                                          Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz

                                          so this lan1, you don't have it in a bridge or something do you?

                                          No bridge unless it is a factory default. I reset the switch before configuring anything.

                                          I did notice differences in the following ifconfig output lines:

                                          vlan: 20 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb1
                                          vlan: 4 vlanproto: 802.1q vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
                                          
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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                                            @Cannondale I just sent a message to Steve.. @stephenw10 maybe he can see something I am missing..

                                            But it sure shouldn't matter if pfsense is using a native untagged on the interface along with tags..

                                            What version of pfsense are you running - what nic specific do you have? I mean its igb should be the same..

                                            I have been running vlans on pfsense since really pfsense came out, have never seen a issue with them on any hardware or any switches..

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