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    Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?

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      remi_imer @stephenw10
      last edited by remi_imer

      @stephenw10 hi there,

      I did exactly as you said and this is what I found during testing. I dont know what am i suppose to be looking at here

      
      last pid: 52273;  load averages:  0.24,  0.23,  0.18                                                                up 3+12:58:31  01:27:23
      204 threads:   7 running, 162 sleeping, 35 waiting
      CPU 0:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system, 58.8% interrupt, 41.2% idle
      CPU 1:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system, 50.0% interrupt, 50.0% idle
      CPU 2:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system, 12.2% interrupt, 87.4% idle
      CPU 3:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  6.1% interrupt, 93.9% idle
      Mem: 21M Active, 47M Inact, 404M Wired, 82M Buf, 3363M Free
      Swap: 3656M Total, 3656M Free
      
      
      
      
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        remi_imer @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10

        I also did what you suggested here.

        /root: sysctl dev.cpu.0
        dev.cpu.0.temperature: 57.0C
        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.tjmax: 100.0C
        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.resolution: 1
        dev.cpu.0.coretemp.delta: 43
        dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc
        dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 43323265 0
        dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 277us
        dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
        dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/148
        dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 3201/84000 3200/84000 3000/76349 2900/73036 2700/66595 2500/60408 2300/53689 2200/50804 2000/45218 1800/39849 1700/37248 1500/31535 1300/26734 1100/22147 1000/19936 800/15661
        dev.cpu.0.freq: 3201
        dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
        dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none
        dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0
        dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
        dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
        
        
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          remi_imer
          last edited by

          Here's an update.

          I connected my PC directly to the FTTH OTO Socket without pfsense router and perform the test.

          Unfortunately the result is the same with or without pfsense router. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Perhaps there is an issue with my 10 Gb NIC. Or there is an issue at the fiber cable somewhere.. or at my ISP. Will call them tomorrow to find out.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Ah, well that's mostly good then.

            No CPU core is at 0% idle (100% used). The loading could be spread better.

            The CPU is running at 3201MHz. The extra 1 there implies turbo is enabled.

            So it should be capable of more if there is more to be had.

            You might try a local test between two 10G interfaces to confirm that.

            Steve

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              remi_imer
              last edited by

              Latest Update.

              Goal of closer to 10 Gigabit reached ๐Ÿ˜Š So to answer my own question. Yes PFsense can indeed handle 10 Gigabit internet.

              alt text

              Thank you all for your inputs. I highly appreciate it.

              Next goal is the 25 Gigabit. I hope TNSR is polished and have GUI interface by then ๐Ÿ˜

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Ooo, nice. I can only dream of such connectivity! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                What sort of CPU loading do you see at that throughput?

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                  remi_imer @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 , hi there.

                  26-29% CPU utilization and 11% Memory Usage.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Wow, that's much lower than I would have expected. Maybe still spread unevenly?

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                      remi_imer @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10

                      I am quite surprised myself. I was actually planning to swap the CPU to i7 4970 (that's the max the motherboard supports) since I saw one in FB market place for 40 CHF but it seems I don't need to do that at all which is good.

                      But I am not running any other stuff in my PFsense Box. Just plain routing.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        With pf enabled though? It's also filtering?

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                          remi_imer @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10

                          Yes, i performed the test using Pfsense - Not direct.

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                            RobbieTT @remi_imer
                            last edited by RobbieTT

                            @remi_imer
                            So how did you unlock the extra performance?

                            Looking at your WAN speeds my LAN speeds are starting to look rather pedestrian:

                            10 GbE.png

                            โ˜•๏ธ

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                              remi_imer @RobbieTT
                              last edited by

                              @RobbieTT

                              wow! that is nice speeds right there.

                              I complained to my ISP. I don't what they did to be honest. Other than that, the other thing I changed the negotiation from in the switch from auto to 10.

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                                RobbieTT @remi_imer
                                last edited by

                                @remi_imer said in Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?:

                                I complained to my ISP. I don't what they did to be honest. Other than that, the other thing I changed the negotiation from in the switch from auto to 10.

                                Yeah I found that I had to specially set 10 GbE on both my switch and Netgate router to achieve the link speed. I think the pfSense guide recommends 'auto' but that didn't turn out so well.

                                โ˜•๏ธ

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @RobbieTT
                                  last edited by

                                  @RobbieTT said in Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?:

                                  specially set 10 GbE on both my switch and Netgate router

                                  Pretty sure the 10GBase-T spec states mandatory auto, believe same for even 1000base-T, that these driver makers even offer hard setting.. There is stuff that is needs to be negotiated other than just link speed.. Master-Slave comes to mind

                                  Glad your working but you sure shouldn't be setting hard speeds, it should be working with auto that is for sure.

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                                    RobbieTT @johnpoz
                                    last edited by RobbieTT

                                    @johnpoz said in Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?:

                                    Glad your working but you sure shouldn't be setting hard speeds, it should be working with auto that is for sure.

                                    I agree but in this case it became a need. I actually tripped on 3 interface bugs from the outset. The first (#14164) was fixed by a rather blunt method which made it to the 23.05 release. Before being able to address the next one a further interface issue was unmasked by resolving the first. That too is now on Redmine awaiting a fix (#14431).

                                    We collectively gave-up on the remaining issues for now as they are complicated without the fix in-place for the recently unmasked issue.

                                    Not everything in networking works as it should. That will never change, so we adapt instead.

                                    โ˜•๏ธ

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @RobbieTT
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                                      @RobbieTT said in Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?:

                                      Not everything in networking works as it should.

                                      haha - yeah true ;)

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Yup, unfortunately I've found it quite common to require setting the link speed on 10G NICs. Especially if you want to link anything other than 10G.

                                        However that's most on 10G fiber or DAC cables.

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 said in Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?:

                                          if you want to link anything other than 10G

                                          yeah if you want to run at gig across a 10G link that would make sense.. ;)

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                                            RobbieTT @johnpoz
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz said in Can PFsense handle 10/10 Gbe Internet?:

                                            yeah if you want to run at gig across a 10G link that would make sense.. ;)

                                            In my case it is running a 10 Gbit link on an SFP+ DAC from the 6100 to my first switch.

                                            โ˜•๏ธ

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