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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @RobbieTT
      last edited by johnpoz

      @robbiett said in DNS unresponsive to clients:

      LAN interfaces to avoid a Resolver restart when my WAN link goes

      I bind my outgoing to loopback.. That never goes down ;)

      loopback.jpg

      And why would you have it listen on your wan? You serving up dns off your wan interface? When it talks outbound, that traffic would be natted to your public IP anyway, etc.

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      • RobbieTTR
        RobbieTT @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in DNS unresponsive to clients:

        And why would you have it listen on your wan? You serving up dns off your wan interface? When it talks outbound, that traffic would be natted to your public IP anyway, etc.

        That was my thought too. As to why it included WAN - well that is the default set in pfSense.

        localhost makes much more sense and what I had set on previous non-pfSense routers. ๐Ÿ‘

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @RobbieTT
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          @robbiett I think they have it listen on all as default because you never know what users might setup, or add etc. so with all its a given that it will listen on all interfaces..

          But you could prob have a discussion about outbound default to localhost...

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          • RobbieTTR
            RobbieTT @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz Setting the actual network interfaces for my 3 LAN/VLANs didn't go so well:

             2023-05-21 at 19.59.13.png

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @RobbieTT
              last edited by johnpoz

              @robbiett where is your local host in your listen?

              listen.jpg

              Its hard to see can you not expand that box?

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @markster
                last edited by SteveITS

                @markster https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/5413
                (Hope towards the bottom) ;)

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                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                • RobbieTTR
                  RobbieTT @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz said in DNS unresponsive to clients:

                  @robbiett where is your local host in your listen?
                  Its hard to see can you not expand that box?

                  Small walk of shame for me as I didn't know the box could be simply dragged to expand it. ๐Ÿคท

                   2023-05-22 at 08.42.44.png

                  [Using Safari in screenshot]

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                  • RobbieTTR
                    RobbieTT @johnpoz
                    last edited by RobbieTT

                    @johnpoz said in DNS unresponsive to clients:

                    I bind my outgoing to loopback.. That never goes down ;)

                    And why would you have it listen on your wan? You serving up dns off your wan interface? When it talks outbound, that traffic would be natted to your public IP anyway, etc.

                    @johnpoz Just to say thank-you and that I set my resolver as per your advice:

                    20230616-pfSense-DNS Resolver-Revised and Restricted Interfaces.png

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                    [yes, I nearly forgot about it...]

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @RobbieTT
                      last edited by

                      @RobbieTT

                      For these two images - what about this one :
                      Trust your firewall.
                      Do not trust the admin.

                      Select for both : "All", save, apply, and call it a day.

                      Netgate delivered pfSense with the "both All" selected and said : that's "ok and save and useful".
                      Nowhere they say that you need (have to) to modify it.

                      If doubt : Contact Netgate and try to learn them 'networking' ๐Ÿ˜Š
                      ( and please, tell us how that went ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ˜Š )

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • RobbieTTR
                        RobbieTT @Gertjan
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                        @Gertjan said in DNS unresponsive to clients:

                        Nowhere they say that you need (have to) to modify it.

                        If doubt : Contact Netgate and try to learn them 'networking' ๐Ÿ˜Š
                        ( and please, tell us how that went ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ˜Š )

                        Dude, I followed sensible advice from @johnpoz. I don't need to bother Netgate - they put the option in their documentation:

                        The network interface(s) to which the DNS Resolver will bind when listening for queries from clients.

                        By default the DNS Resolver listens on every available interface and IPv4 and IPv6 address. This option limits the interfaces where the DNS Resolver will accept and answer queries. This can be used to increase security in addition to firewall rules.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
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                          @Gertjan said in DNS unresponsive to clients:

                          Nowhere they say that you need (have to) to modify it.

                          Nope nothing saying you need to modify it.. You do you - if you like all, then use all.. Is that the most secure setup or best optimal setup? What I would say is its the "safest" setup for when yo don't know what the network setup will actually be.. So its a valid "default" setup.

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