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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      In the firewall log.

      However if you have added block rules on WAN or floating they may not be set to log. Have you added rules there?

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        mrrobot @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 i have no block rule on WAN interface

        Screenshot 2023-06-21 at 15.15.26.png

        in the log i see ICMP traffic blocked not TCP

        Screenshot 2023-06-21 at 15.16.05.png

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by stephenw10

          Those ping blocks are frequent. Were you running pkg update at the time to generate some tcp traffic.

          Also they are shown blocked from the WAN IP to the gateway but not shown as outbound....

          Do you have any rules on the floating tab?

          You also have a pass all IPv4 rule on WAN which is almost always a bad idea. I assume you added that just as a test.

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            mrrobot @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

            Those ping blocks are frequent. Were you running pkg update at the time to generate some tcp traffic.

            yes i did run pkg update

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              mrrobot @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

              Do you have any rules on the floating tab?

              no, its empty

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                mrrobot @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

                You also have a pass all IPv4 rule on WAN which is almost always a bad idea. I assume you added that just as a test.

                yes i will chage it later once my issue is solved, i hope :)

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Ok, check the ruleset file /tmp/rules.debug

                  What is rule 12001 there?

                  That traffic should not be coming into WAN.

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                    mrrobot @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 i see no 12001 role in /tmp/rules.debug

                    [2.6.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.xxx.local]/root: grep '12001' /tmp/rules.debug
                    [2.6.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.xxx.local]/root:

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                      mrrobot @mrrobot
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                      @mrrobot i see a icmpv6 section thought, can't see icmp v4

                      .# Allow only bare essential icmpv6 packets (NS, NA, and RA, echoreq, echorep)
                      pass out quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from fe80::/10 to fe80::/10 icmp6-type {129,133,134,135,136} ridentifier 1000000108 keep state
                      pass out quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from fe80::/10 to ff02::/16 icmp6-type {129,133,134,135,136} ridentifier 1000000109 keep state
                      pass in quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from fe80::/10 to fe80::/10 icmp6-type {128,133,134,135,136} ridentifier 1000000110 keep state
                      pass in quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from ff02::/16 to fe80::/10 icmp6-type {128,133,134,135,136} ridentifier 1000000111 keep state
                      pass in quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from fe80::/10 to ff02::/16 icmp6-type {128,133,134,135,136} ridentifier 1000000112 keep state
                      pass in quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from :: to ff02::/16 icmp6-type {128,133,134,135,136} ridentifier 1000000113 keep state
                      .# We use the mighty pf, we cannot be fooled.
                      block log quick inet proto { tcp, udp } from any port = 0 to any ridentifier 1000000114 label "Block traffic from port 0"
                      block log quick inet proto { tcp, udp } from any to any port = 0 ridentifier 1000000115 label "Block traffic to port 0"
                      block log quick inet6 proto { tcp, udp } from any port = 0 to any ridentifier 1000000116 label "Block traffic from port 0"
                      block log quick inet6 proto { tcp, udp } from any to any port = 0 ridentifier 1000000117 label "Block traffic to port 0"

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Ok try this. Click on the red X in the firewall log. What rule does it show has blocked that?

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                          mrrobot @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 [2.6.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.xxx.local]/root: grep '1000000103' /tmp/rules.debug
                          block in log inet all ridentifier 1000000103 label "Default deny rule IPv4"
                          [2.6.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.xxx.local]/root:

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            You see that on the rule that's marked '12001'?

                            You would expect to see traffic blocked inbound by the default rule but not what shows in the log there.

                            It could be something upstream sending back the permission denied response. You have active filtering on the gateway device?

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                              mrrobot @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

                              You see that on the rule that's marked '12001'?

                              i see it on rule 1000000103

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                                mrrobot @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

                                You have active filtering on the gateway device?

                                how can i check that ?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Ok, so seeing traffic blocked by the default rule on WAN, like that IGMP traffic in your screenshot, is expected and not an issue. Unrelated to whatever is blocking outgoing requests here.

                                  What is the gateway device here?

                                  Try looking for states to 208.123.73.X when you try to run the update. In Diag > States filter by 208.123.73

                                  You should see states there unless something is blocking it on the firewall itself.

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                                    mrrobot @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 running pfsense on protectli vault fw4b

                                    Screenshot 2023-06-21 at 20.07.41.png

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Those are only states from LAN side clients to our subnet on https. So probably you connecting to the forum.

                                      Were you running pkg update when you checked that? I expect to see a state for that on WAN only without NAT.

                                      Try running a port test to it:

                                      Screenshot from 2023-06-21 20-46-15.png

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                                        mrrobot @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

                                        ere you running pkg update when you checked that?

                                        yes

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                                          mrrobot @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 said in can't update pfsense or install packages:

                                          Try running a port test to it:

                                          both pkg00-atx.netgate.com & pkg01-atx.netgate.com show failed

                                          Screenshot 2023-06-21 at 21.49.23.png

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Do you see states created when running that test?

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