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      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
      last edited by michmoor

      I found the culprit. I disabled pfBlockerNG and cpu went back to high 90% idle.
      Is anyone aware of any issues recently with pfBlocker? Im running the latest package 3.2.0_5

      edit: For anyone that comes after me and needs help or wonder how i went down this path of troubleshooting this was my thought process on this problem. I saw what was showing up consistently in my CPU process. Unbound on its own i generally dont have a problem with but i know pfblocker does manipulate it in some way so thats what led me to first restart the unbound service then pfblockerng.

      Also this was useful: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/high-cpu-load.html#troubleshooting-high-cpu-load

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, it would be interesting to know exactly what pfBlocker was doing there, or asking Unbound to do.

        Does it come back if you re-enable pfBlocker?

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 Interestingly when i try to start the DNSBL service it fails. Nothing in the log thats helpful.
          PFblocker just the IP blocking is working without issue. Just the dns sinkholing is where we're failing. My curiosity here is peaked.
          Any commands you can recommend to gain some insight?

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            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
            last edited by michmoor

            @stephenw10 Restarted the entire pfblocker package and now its functioning. The increased in CPU usage has come back -- unbound related.
            How can i diagnose better?

            Below is when i had pfblocker Enabled without DNSBL. Then I turned it back on.

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
              last edited by

              Just really weird that unbound tied with pfblocker is acting so strange.

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              • PhizixP
                Phizix @michmoor
                last edited by Phizix

                @michmoor,

                Is it not expected for it to use some more CPU? So is it much more than expected?

                Phizix

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @Phizix
                  last edited by

                  @Phizix Historically on my SG-6100 cpu utilization isnt an issue. I have a baseline so thats how i know where this an issue. Right now although DNSBL is the problem its not causing any system instability. I would like to know why its acting this way if there is indeed an issue which i suspect there is.

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                  • PhizixP
                    Phizix @michmoor
                    last edited by

                    @michmoor,

                    Makes sense if you had a baseline to compare to. So indeed more CPU usage than normal.

                    I am curious what you find when you solve it. Was there a recent package update?

                    Phizix

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                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @Phizix
                      last edited by michmoor

                      @Phizix I'll keep this thread as updated as i can. I started a reddit post on it so i hope the maintainer can respond there as well. @BBcan177

                        PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                      36790 unbound       1 118    0   294M   260M CPU3     3 551:03 100.96% unbound
                       8387 www           1  20    0    44M    23M kqread   3  41:13   1.27% haproxy
                      59321 root          5  20    0   666M   578M nanslp   3 187:01   0.79% suricata
                      18304 root          1  20    0    12M  2488K kqread   3   7:11   0.75% dhcpleases
                      23975 root          5  20    0   859M   711M nanslp   3 172:29   0.70% suricata
                      98310 root          5  20    0   745M   667M nanslp   2 145:47   0.58% suricata
                      30622 root          1  20    0    13M  3152K select   0 105:28   0.44% syslogd
                      35711 root          1  20    0    13M  3584K bpf      3  66:04   0.22% filterlog
                      96223 root          1  20    0    14M  4000K CPU2     2   0:00   0.10% top
                      60163 nobody        1  20    0    16M  4996K select   3   0:32   0.08% softflowd
                      46104 zabbix        1   4    0    24M    11M select   1   5:45   0.08% zabbix_agentd
                      13937 root         17  68    0   107M    28M sigwai   1   7:27   0.08% charon
                      45925 zabbix        1  20    0    24M    11M select   1   5:39   0.07% zabbix_agentd
                      60519 dhcpd         1  20    0    25M    13M select   1   0:49   0.07% dhcpd
                      31822 root          1  20    0    18M  8012K select   0   9:39   0.05% openvpn
                      48305 root          3  20    0    69M    35M kqread   1   1:26   0.05% syslog-ng
                      
                      

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                        last edited by

                        Problem solved. Re-installed pfblockerNG. Made sure i had the 'Keep settings' option enabled.
                        It was really a last option thing. I didnt know if a reinstall would fix it but i knew there was something wrong with the configuration.
                        I had a custom DNS block list that was blocking example.com. I have since removed it a while ago but i noticed the domain is still getting sink holed. I triple checked to make sure the domain wasnt listed but pfblocker was indeed blocking it.
                        Re-install and now im back to baseline. Weird bug in the package but without other tools to debug i cant say why the package freaked out the way it did. I also cant reproduce the problem anymore.
                        🤷

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                        • PhizixP
                          Phizix @michmoor
                          last edited by

                          @michmoor,

                          Thanks for the follow-up. Good to know.

                          Phizix

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                            last edited by

                            The problem has come back.
                            Restarting unbound or dnbl doesnt solve the problem. The only solution is to disable DNSBL and cpu util goes back to normal.
                            I honestly have no idea and im at a lost.
                            I reinstalled the package from completely not saving any settings.

                               11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K RUN      2 862:26  87.99% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
                               11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K CPU3     3 835:22  84.28% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
                               11 root        187 ki31     0B    64K CPU1     1 851:44  77.69% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
                            18451 unbound      68    0   235M   202M kqread   1   7:55  46.19% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            18451 unbound      68    0   235M   202M kqread   1   0:00  46.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            18451 unbound      68    0   235M   202M kqread   0   0:00  46.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            18451 unbound      68    0   235M   202M kqread   2   0:00  46.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            

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                              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                              last edited by michmoor

                              Interesting...Checking the DNS logs i see the same script being loaded over and over again.
                              Im still poking around. No clue right now :)
                              Whats also so weird is that unbound keeps restarting..

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Can you disable python mode in pfBlocker to test?

                                If you run ps -auxwwd can you see what script is actually running?

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                                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 I think i solved it. Im fairly confident its solved now....i hope 🤞 😁

                                  The clues are in the DNS logs. I noticed Unbound kept restarting and i remember a while ago reading on the forums that DHCP registration causes Unbound to restart. I do have registration enabled for all VLANs so i wasnt totally buying that as a reason. Regardless I reviewed each DHCP configuration for the vlans and what do i find?
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                                  Ahhh this aggressive lease timer. I stood up new DNS servers for a vlan and needed clients to switch over quickly. I never updated this until today. Switched back to defaults and CPU utilization shot back down to normal baseline levels.

                                  Someone correct me if im wrong but i thought the DHCP registration issue with needed Unbound to restart was solved in the latest release?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Part of that issue was solved but it still restarts Unbound to load the new values every time. Which is.... sub optimal!

                                    Yes, 60s is very short. Any reason it was set to that?

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                                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 said in CPU usage increase suddenly:

                                      Yes, 60s is very short. Any reason it was set to that?

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                                      I stood up new DNS servers and wanted devices to cut over right away which worked but caused an issue for myself.

                                      This entire issue smelled like a config problem but i couldn't prove it at the time. I went against my rule of rebooting the firewall as i truly dislike doing that especially if things were working before.

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