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      SpaceBass @michmoor
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      @michmoor said in (yet another) IPsec throughput help request:

      It was recommended that I enable NAT-T Force

      Interesting... can you say more about how you enabled it? Does this mean you are using IKE1 and not IKE2?

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        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SpaceBass
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        @SpaceBass It can be enabled for IKEv1 or v2

        Its under Advanced Options

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          SpaceBass @michmoor
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          @michmoor
          Thanks for the tip - unfortunately, it didn't make any difference in my case.

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            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SpaceBass
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            @SpaceBass In that case whats the hardware on each site terminating the VPN tunnel?
            Seems perhaps there is a limitation there

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              SpaceBass @michmoor
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              @michmoor

              Europe: 2 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) E-2386G CPU @ 3.50GHz with 128gb RAM, SSD ZFS Raid 1

              US: 2x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1270 v5 @ 3.60GHz with 64gb RAM, SSD ZFS raid 1

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                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SpaceBass
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                @SpaceBass Intel NICs?

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                  SpaceBass @michmoor
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                  @michmoor
                  thanks for the continued troubleshooting help!

                  US - intel bare metal
                  Europe - VirtIO, host NIC in Intel

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                    pete35 @SpaceBass
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                    @SpaceBass

                    You may try to adjust your MTU/MSS Settings on both sides equally to exactly these numbers here:

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                    <a href="https://carsonlam.ca">bintang88</a>
                    <a href="https://carsonlam.ca">slot88</a>

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                      SpaceBass @pete35
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                      @pete35 I dont (currently) use an interface for ipsec

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SpaceBass
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                        @SpaceBass Do you have any Cryptographic Acceleration? Is it on?

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                          SpaceBass @michmoor
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                          @michmoor AES-NI, yes it is active on both pfSense machines

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                            pete35 @SpaceBass
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                            @SpaceBass

                            you can try to set MSS Clamping under system/advanced/firewall&Nat

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                            Why dont you use routed vti?

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                              NOCling
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                              For Tunnel mode MSS 1328 is most effective:
                              https://packetpushers.net/ipsec-bandwidth-overhead-using-aes/

                              Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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                                SpaceBass @NOCling
                                last edited by SpaceBass

                                @NOCling said in (yet another) IPsec throughput help request:

                                For Tunnel mode MSS 1328 is most effective:
                                https://packetpushers.net/ipsec-bandwidth-overhead-using-aes/

                                WOAH! Massive difference (in only one direction)...

                                From US -> Europe

                                [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   252 MBytes   211 Mbits/sec  9691             sender
                                [SUM]   0.00-10.20  sec   233 MBytes   192 Mbits/sec                  receiver
                                

                                Europe -> US

                                [SUM]   0.00-10.20  sec  22.0 MBytes  18.1 Mbits/sec    0             sender
                                [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  20.5 MBytes  17.2 Mbits/sec                  receiver
                                
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                                  NOCling
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                                  Nice, but now you have to find a way to the paring jungle how it will work fast on both ways.
                                  Looks like US -> EU runs a other way than EU -> US.

                                  We talk about that, in our last meeting and the solution is not easy.
                                  One Point is to use a Cloud Service Provider he is present on both sides and you can use the interconnect between this cloud instances.

                                  Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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                                    SpaceBass @NOCling
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                                    @NOCling and unfortunately my success was very short-lived ...
                                    It looks like iperf3 traffic is still improved, but I'm moving data at 500kB/s - 1.50MB/s

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                                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SpaceBass
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                                      @SpaceBass if you temp switch to Wireguard does the issue follow?
                                      If it does it may not be MTU related.

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                                        NOCling
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                                        How do you move your Data?
                                        SMB is a very bad decision for high latency ways, you need rsync or other wan optimized protocols.

                                        Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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                                          SpaceBass @NOCling
                                          last edited by

                                          @NOCling said in (yet another) IPsec throughput help request:

                                          How do you move your Data?

                                          rsync - have tried both an NFSv4 mount and over ssh (for testing purpose)

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