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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      That's on the WAN? Do you see more on the VLAN?

      Also that's a different IP, did the phone just get a new IP?

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        djskott @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 It's entirely possible that the device picked up a new IP from the Carrier. I am seeing a different IP in the VLAN than i do with the WAN now that you mentioned it.

        Here is the VLAN as of 1056a https://www.djskott.com/thingsthatgohmm/pcapvlan200-1056.zip

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          What we're looking to do here though is make sure the UDP stream looks the same on both the VLAN and the WAN. Potentially some MTU difference could be dropping traffic there for example. I don't think that is happening but we need pcaps from both interfaces where the IPs used are the same ideally.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @djskott
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            @djskott said in WyzeCam and Pfsense:

            feed will spike up to 50-100ish KBps and then drop to zero and hang for 2-5 seconds then spike and hang,

            How exactly are you seeing the speed, is it something on the app that reports this? I haven't watched your videos yet.. But just got it setup, pretty slick actually. It did a couple of firmware updates.. But I didn't have to forward any ports.. Turned my phone off of wifi, and its viewing just fine, and responsive to my panning, etc..

            I just need to figure out where to view some sort of speed, etc.. I will watch your videos

            edit: ok do you have subscription or something, I am not seeing any speed on my app on my iphone.

            But in your video there is no movement, why would you think it should constantly be showing bandwidth, let me see I think there is a free 1 month trial of plus, etc.

            edit2: ok started a free trial of plus, and still not seeing where it shows kbps.. Just shows HD.. The camera is very responsive, the feed is not behind, etc. I am not seeing any problems, and I didn't need to open any ports..

            You sure your speed thing is just not the normal compression it does when there is no movement?

            Is there some trick in enabling viewing the kbps? I have tried my ios, and my android tablet - I don't see anywhere to turn that on or off? But so far from the few minutes of playing with it.. Pretty impressive for the 30$ price range.. Now need to figure out exactly if I have anywhere to mount it ;)

            edit3: Well shit... from this post it seems the kbps is missing on the pan v3..

            https://forums.wyze.com/t/display-bitrate-on-all-new-cam-ui-live-streams/248979
            All other Wyze cams display the bit rate data transfer speed on both the Live Stream and the SD Playback. This is a very useful tool in troubleshooting playback and streaming issues to identify network problems.

            The V3 Pro and PanV3 cams should not be the only cams in the Wyze stables to omit this display function. [Edit: Even the OG has it] Bring back the functions that are useful!

            edit4: Ok doing a bit of playing, so I pointed the camera to video playing on screen, and watching on my phone (via cell data only - no wifi) and was pretty good picture, decent amount of movement, I could prob watch movies that way ;) Was getting alerts of people detected ;)

            Anyway was seeing this bandwidth being used

            camera.jpg

            Then pointed it to something not moving, and bandwidth dropped.. And you can see here where dropped more is when changed mode to 360p..

            slowspped.jpg

            So far I am not seeing anything wrong here.. Works as it should, and I had to do zero on pfsense for this to just work out of the box.. I wish I could see what the app is showing for kbps and I could compare that to actual data I am seeing for bandwidth.. With just looking at the wall was seeing about 900k when switched to 360p mode that dropped to like 300k.. Then moved it up to hd and the bandwidth went back up..

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in WyzeCam and Pfsense:

              I could prob watch movies that way ;) Was getting alerts of people detected ;)

              Ha

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                djskott @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz

                Thanks for sharing this.

                I have the cam plus lite sub.

                Before pfsense even with zero movement (while streaming via cell service) the clock would tick up in seconds and the bw on KBps would jump all around. Never to zero, never hang on zero.

                I'll try to do some more pcaps this weekend and take some ss of the meters.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @djskott
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                  @djskott can you do a test like I did for actual bandwidth being used.. And get some sort of movement going on, etc.. I by no means am an expert with these wyze.. But it makes sense for them to compress and not continue to send a full live stream if there is no movement. So you bandwidth should be way lower when there is no movement.

                  You prob can't easy move your cameras around - but if you have one you can point to something where there is decent amount of movement, I pointed it to screen showing a video..

                  Sucks the model I got just happens to not show the kbps.. So I can not help to see if their are difference in what that shows and what actual bandwidth is being used.

                  Also - are you recording to a SD?

                  But from only the few minutes of playing with this - I really don't see how it could be a pfsense issue. maybe issue on your wifi? Kind of crappy that they only support 2.4..

                  I can see how the kbps could be useful, not sure why its not on all of their cameras - seems even the cheap 20$ has it.. But its also quite possible that the value shown is misleading in what is actually happening.

                  When I pointed it to the video, I could see the actual video and the video via wyze.. It was pretty damn close to actual realtime, and wasn't seeing any freezes or the like in the video feed..

                  edit: on a side note to self, to maybe look into it more.. When I was playing around on the traffic screen, I did get some php errors from pfsense.

                  16:04:48 PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /etc/inc/util.inc, Line: 2276, Message: Uncaught TypeError: format_number(): Argument #1 ($num) must be of type int, string given, called in /usr/local/pfSense/include/www/bandwidth_by_ip.inc on line 172 and defined in /etc/inc/util.inc:2276
                  Stack trace:
                  #0 /usr/local/pfSense/include/www/bandwidth_by_ip.inc(172): format_number('', 2)
                  #1 /usr/local/www/bandwidth_by_ip.php(36): printBandwidth('opt5', 'local', 'in', '', 'iftop')
                  #2 {main}
                    thrown
                  

                  I will have to take a look at redmine to see if anything reported. I don't normally play around in the traffic graph screen. But switched some stuff around because it wasn't showing the IPs that were moving data..

                  So if you play around in the traffic screen to look for data, you might see such same errors??

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    A wifi issue would affect local connections too though. It has to be something in the WAN link....

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      @johnpoz said in WyzeCam and Pfsense:

                      util.inc:2276

                      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14500

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 true true.. I will have to read the thread in more detail.. So when on local the kbps in the video still fluctuates right. Just different numbers..

                        Maybe they will add the kbps thing to this camera with some new firmware? I looked and on the latest, 4.50.44767 and didn't see any newer betas or anything.

                        I wouldn't put to much weight on those numbers, I would be more interested in what the actual bandwidth is..

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 when I get a chance I will add the notifications I got.. looks the same exactly from quick glance at the redmine. thanks!

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                            djskott @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz

                            yes I am recording to SD.

                            I'm leaning to WAN link as well. I'm doing my wired lan cut over to PfSense this weekend and plan on moving the modem gateway to bridge mode. I'll do more caps and scree shots then.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @djskott
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                              @djskott maybe I missed it - but other than fluctuation in the video kbps value.. Are you actually not seeing video update, its skippy, missing stuff?

                              Love to see the bandwidth values, and example of video with movement in it.. Does show someone walking into the frame and then just appear at the far end of the frame, that sort of thing?

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                                djskott @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz @stephenw10

                                Good morning Folks. First and foremost both of you have been great in walking this noob through this. Thank you thank you thank you!

                                I have completed my Wired cutover and moved the modem in to gateway mode. LAN speeds are working as expected, maybe seeing a 100mbps decrease to the internet, could be the traffic that is going on, (Kids with their fancy VR's and laptops gaming) but nonetheless I'm happy with the outcome.

                                I was able to open up the FW to allow Plex to work remotely. Seems like everything is good so far after that. I'm able to stream to twitch and shoutcast with no issues. File transfer over the LAN were top notch.

                                The Cam issue comes and goes now, mostly on the cams that are furthest away from the AP. There is an occasional stutter in movement, Im guessing that is just going to be a signal coverage Gap. I'll have to find a outdoor solution to pipe some signal out to the backyard to cover Said gaps. Any suggestions on an inexpensive solution? PoE is an option, however open to just a repeater that I plug in and leave alone.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  I have had some bad experiences with wifi repeaters, I try to avoid them when possible.

                                  I have had good experiences with Ethernet over Powerline. I know some people hate it though, maybe I've just been lucky!

                                  Actual hardwired Ethernet is hard to beat. 😉

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in WyzeCam and Pfsense:

                                    I have had good experiences with Ethernet over Powerline.

                                    Same - not so much that its fast as they put on the box, but the same thing goes for wifi ;) But in the few times I have had to use it - its been stable.. And can be a solution for when you can not run a real wire, and wifi is not easy to cover in the area..

                                    I would suggest to at least give it a go in a scenario where it could be helpful in cost saving or in ease of deployment. Your not going to get gig more than likely..

                                    Do the outdoor wyze support poe? Or do they have to connect to wifi - if you they can do poe, then yeah that would be a rock solid solution..

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                                      djskott @johnpoz
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                                      So, It reverted back after a day or so. I haven't had time to dig until now.

                                      I'm seeing in the pcap the cams are talking to 167.160.89.154.

                                      Example: 192.168.200.104.55902 > 167.160.89.154.10001: UDP, length 1117

                                      Traceroute takes it to some server farm at dedicated.com

                                      Tracing route to 167.160.89.154 over a maximum of 30 hops

                                      1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
                                      2 10 ms 11 ms 5 ms 10.68.88.1
                                      3 15 ms 16 ms 12 ms 100.127.74.82
                                      4 28 ms 40 ms 13 ms 100.120.100.16
                                      5 * * * Request timed out.
                                      6 * * * Request timed out.
                                      7 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms 64.124.129.53.IPYX-288174-006-ZYO.zip.zayo.com [64.124.129.53]
                                      8 23 ms 23 ms 20 ms po2.lax-csla2-bb5.globalsecurelayer.com [206.148.25.94]
                                      9 48 ms 51 ms 47 ms e50.sea-drtsea10-bb1.globalsecurelayer.com [206.148.25.7]
                                      10 49 ms 55 ms 49 ms po10.sea-drtsea10-cr1.globalsecurelayer.com [206.148.25.16]
                                      11 * * * Request timed out.
                                      12 56 ms 53 ms 107 ms core.sea.dedicated.com [167.160.89.2]
                                      13 46 ms 51 ms 51 ms 167.160.89.154

                                      I don't ever see my phone external IP address appear in the PCAP.

                                      So I did a PCAP from my phone targeting the Wyze app. It's saying the Source is 92.119.177.210
                                      which is another serverfarm/cloud solution at M247.

                                      Tracing route to 92.119.177.210 over a maximum of 30 hops

                                      1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
                                      2 9 ms 11 ms 8 ms 10.68.88.1
                                      3 10 ms 7 ms 14 ms 100.127.74.82
                                      4 13 ms 16 ms 8 ms 100.120.100.16
                                      5 13 ms 16 ms 11 ms phx-b6-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.173.20]
                                      6 7 ms 9 ms 13 ms lumen-ic-358768.ip.twelve99-cust.net [62.115.176.123]
                                      7 * 73 ms 71 ms ae1.3511.edge2.NewYork6.level3.net [4.69.209.78]
                                      8 69 ms 68 ms 69 ms 4.8.5.142
                                      9 * * * Request timed out.
                                      10 94 ms 91 ms 85 ms vlan2918.as15.nyc1.us.m247.com [193.9.115.225]
                                      11 * * * Request timed out.
                                      12 66 ms 63 ms 69 ms 92.119.177.210

                                      Here are the caps

                                      Here is a video of my Traffic Feed in PFSENSE
                                      The target ip for the cam I was viewing is x.200.104

                                      Youtube Video

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Hmm, this still 'feels' like it's falling back to sending all video via the remote servers at a much lower data rate. But if it was that I'd expect to see some indication it was like 'indirect' or 'proxied' etc.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @djskott
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                                          @djskott still waiting to see what your actually sending out your wan, be it direct to the client device, or their servers.. Like I did above vs what your gauge says in your client..

                                          When I gets a chance will look to see if can actually do a direct connection via a port forward..

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                                            djskott @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz

                                            Here is a WAN Cap WAN Cap 9923.zip

                                            Here is the video taken at that time of the WAN Cap

                                            YouTube Video

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