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    • PhizixP
      Phizix @phreed
      last edited by Phizix

      @phreed,

      OK, I see you just updated the original post image. This is clearer.

      I assume your "misc" is able to access the internet fine. What are the rules on the LAN side of the 3100?
      Phizix

      P.S. forgot to ask, what gateway is the LAN pointed to and what gateway is the WAN pointed to?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        I don't see the RasPi on your diagram but I assume it's behind your 3100.

        Your outbound NAT rules show that you have a subnet conflict. You have set the 3100 LAN to 172.16.0.0/12 (1048574 hosts) and that conflict with the WAN subnet being passed via DHCP.

        You should almost certainly have your LAN subnet set to /24. 172.16.0.0/12 as the entire available private IP range from 172.16 and you only need a small part of that.
        It still have to be a different subnet to the eero LAN so for example setting the 3100 LAN to 172.16.100.1/24 will work.

        Steve

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Mmm, just noticed your diagram shows an IP that doesn't conflict but no subnet so it just correcting that to /24 may be enough. So the LAN should be 172.17.1.1/24

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            phreed @stephenw10
            last edited by phreed

            Here is a more complete picture.

            69a0bfce-6f63-4e94-b2fc-4051bdbc18e2-image.png

            Yes, misc is able to reach the internet without issue.

            From 172.17.1.111

            ip route
            default via 172.17.1.1 dev enx9cbf0d001279 proto dhcp src 172.17.1.111 metric 20100 
            blackhole 10.1.100.0/26 proto 80 
            10.1.100.17 dev calieb72027faf7 scope link 
            10.1.100.18 dev cali3867c773915 scope link 
            169.254.0.0/16 dev enx9cbf0d001279 scope link metric 1000 
            172.16.0.0/12 dev enx9cbf0d001279 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.1.111 metric 100
            

            b56d503c-c53c-4779-b60f-1d6915ac9d30-image.png

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @phreed
              last edited by

              @phreed said in Adding Netgate 3100 to existing network:

              172.16.0.0/12 dev enx9cbf0d001279 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.1.111 metric 100

              Fix that. The subnet should be /24 to avoid a conflict.

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                phreed @stephenw10
                last edited by phreed

                @stephenw10 said in Adding Netgate 3100 to existing network:

                @phreed said in Adding Netgate 3100 to existing network:

                172.16.0.0/12 dev enx9cbf0d001279 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.1.111 metric 100

                Fix that. The subnet should be /24 to avoid a conflict.

                I deleted the route and pinged; then restored it as 172.16.0.0/24 dev enx9cbf0d001279 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.1.111 metric 100 and pinged again.
                That did not seem to help

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  That subnet is defined in the 3100 in the LAN config. You need to set it there.

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                    phreed @stephenw10
                    last edited by phreed

                    @stephenw10
                    Do you mean in Interfaces / LAN (mvneta1)?
                    f0bc340d-6247-4b82-ace4-b1fbea13838d-image.png

                    If I make that change when I save I get...

                    The following input errors were detected:
                    IPv4 address 172.17.1.1/24 is being used by or overlaps with: WAN (172.16.0.22/12)
                    
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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Ah, Ok, then both segments are incorrect you definitly don't need a /12 subnet anywhere.

                      Ok, use a different private subnet on the 3100 LAN like: 192.168.100.1/24

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                        phreed @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10
                        That seems to correct the problem.

                        There can be no overlap between the subnet and its parent?
                        I guess that makes sense.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yes you cannot have the same subnet on more than one interface it breaks routing.

                          But you shouldn't have a /12 subnet on any interface. That's >1M hosts! If you're using the 172.16.0.0/12 private range you should choose a smaller subnet from inside that.

                          So I recommend you change the subnet the eero is using on it's LAN at some point.

                          Steve

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                            phreed @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10
                            That makes sense.
                            Thanks

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