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      stevencavanagh
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      Hi,

      I am currently running Pfsense on a Dell PC with 1 WAN connection and all is fine with a UPS attached. However, ideally I would like to either add a 2nd identical PC running the same config which I could use as a standby should the main PC go down due to hardware failure (disk etc). Is this possible, easy. I know I could simply replace the PC with a spare and reload the config but I might not be around and the rest of the family would not know how to do this!

      Alternatively, I could add a 2nd ssd and run raid or equivalent to cater for disk failure but is it easy to add a second disk for pfsense without completely rebuilding it?

      Steve

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        NollipfSense @stevencavanagh
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        @stevencavanagh A better strategy would be using two drives (SSD/nvme) in raid stripe...then, always have the current pfSense version on bootable flash drive handy, followed by a backup of your current workable configuration. Plan on purchasing a UPS as soon as you can. This defeats the need of have a PC as spare. Remember to use the space bar to select drives when installing.

        pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
        pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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          Patch @stevencavanagh
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          @stevencavanagh I have a spare mini PC as that covers also covers

          • hardware failure other than disk problems (power supply, memory, NIC, processor, debugging while isolating fault).

          • Software upgrade failure

          The intention is to use the spare miniPC as a HTPC when not needed as a DIY router (pfsense, 3cx, Unifi controller, Proxmox)

          If you actually want high availability have a look at https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/high-availability.html

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            stevencavanagh @NollipfSense
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            @NollipfSense said in Hot / Standby Pfsense PC:

            @stevencavanagh A better strategy would be using two drives (SSD/nvme) in raid stripe...then, always have the current pfSense version on bootable flash drive handy, followed by a backup of your current workable configuration. Plan on purchasing a UPS as soon as you can. This defeats the need of have a PC as spare. Remember to use the space bar to select drives when installing.

            I currently have an APC SMART UPS, which is supplying the whole rack but the ethernet connection is connected currently tot the NAS to trigger it to shutdown so I need to move that to pfsense PC and then allow pfsense to shutdown the NAS via apcupsd.

            Agreed that a second disk would be wise, how straightforward is it to add one now?

            Got the flash drive bit covered though!

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              stevencavanagh @Patch
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              @Patch said in Hot / Standby Pfsense PC:

              @stevencavanagh I have a spare mini PC as that covers also covers

              • hardware failure other than disk problems (power supply, memory, NIC, processor, debugging while isolating fault).

              • Software upgrade failure

              The intention is to use the spare miniPC as a HTPC when not needed as a DIY router (pfsense, 3cx, Unifi controller, Proxmox)

              If you actually want high availability have a look at https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/high-availability.html

              Cheers for the link, had a quick look last night but I will need to sit down and digest it all, preferably not at 3am in the morning.

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                NollipfSense @stevencavanagh
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                @stevencavanagh said in Hot / Standby Pfsense PC:

                how straightforward is it to add one now?

                Pretty much straightforward plug n' play taking in mind that you will need to re-install pfSense and remember to press the space bar to select both drives.

                pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                  stevencavanagh @NollipfSense
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                  @NollipfSense Assuming I back it all up then it doesn’t seem too bad!

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                    NollipfSense @stevencavanagh
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                    @stevencavanagh said in Hot / Standby Pfsense PC:

                    Assuming I back it all up

                    You're just backing up your workable configuration...nothing more.

                    pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                    pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                      stevencavanagh @NollipfSense
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                      @NollipfSense said in Hot / Standby Pfsense PC:

                      @stevencavanagh said in Hot / Standby Pfsense PC:

                      Assuming I back it all up

                      You're just backing up your workable configuration...nothing more.

                      Yep, all backed up so just need to order another disk

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