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    • yon 0Y
      yon 0 @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz

      Yes, my native language is not English.

      I'm talking about things, not targeting anyone. I want pfsense to be better, that's why I say so much. I found that the development team may have different philosophies, so there may be differences in how to do things. My philosophy is to use the most advanced technology, but the development is suitable for strict technical quality control. Every change developed must be tested in different internal environments, especially some that may cause serious problems and cannot be taken outside at all.
      I found that the current philosophy of the Pfsense team is that they are afraid to use advanced technologies, especially some new technologies that they dare not try and need to wait for a long time. Technology is advancing with the times, and many technologies are time-sensitive and cannot be used for a long time. We must be brave enough to try the latest Instead of avoiding things for fear of problems, it is best to control the quality of every detail is crucial. If you don’t try new technologies and find problems, users are likely to use them in conjunction with various new technologies or new equipment. If the team has not used new technologies, it will be difficult to integrate them with user needs. Computer technology relies heavily on innovation. The change in one year can be huge and it is impossible to wait until a year later to use it.

      There is a difference between opnsense and pfsense in adopting new technologies. OP is more willing to try new technologies or new things. I am used to various settings of pfsense, so it is difficult for me to change.

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        yon 0 @yon 0
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        I recently used DTLS technology for udp tunnel, I contacted the developer directly to provide various suggestions and improvements were quickly implemented. He is a Ukrainian developer and I think he is very patient.

        So if pfsense can consider adding new technology features, I recommend it.

        The website of his works is this

        https://github.com/Snawoot/dtlspipe

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          yon 0 @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          This is an example. These could have been discovered through internal review. It's too obvious. So why am I tired of reporting bugs? I'm not a technical developer and I don't know the specific details of the code. I can only report from the superficial phenomenon. Regarding the specific details, Technical issues require investigation and judgment by your technical staff. It is too difficult to leave it to ordinary users to investigate.

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            yon 0 @yon 0
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            I use DTLS to protect wireguard, Wiregaurd has obvious characteristic shortcomings. The handshake part of the data packet is too easy to be detected and blocked by DPI.

            Tested using DTLS and the result is that there are obvious benefits. It is currently not blocked by DPI and reduces interference. I worked with this developer to improve it.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in some services show can't start:

              Ok, that is a bug I can easily replicate that.

              https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14870

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              • yon 0Y
                yon 0 @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10

                when i input network 2602:fed6:7021::/48, it is show network/0 in firewall rule

                Firewall_ Rules_ WAN (2).jpg

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  This should actually be fixed in todays build (23.09.b.20231013.0600) are you testing that?

                  Existing rules will need to be resaved to populate the aliases correctly.

                  Steve

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 JFC Steve - you need these developers working on the latest and greatest to up their quality testing and make sure every possible thing works before you release the snapshots ;)

                    hahaah

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Mmmm. We should have caught that one but.... that's what dev builds are for. 😉

                      But in all seriousness we cannot possibly test every possible config and, especially for complex and unusual configs, we expect to see more bugs reported at each stage in the release.

                      If you have such a config I encourage you take part in the release testing process to find those bugs as early s possible.

                      Steve

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                      • yon 0Y
                        yon 0 @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

                        There are so many mistakes that I can’t even count them on two hands. Upgrading is not that easy.

                        pfSense-upgrade -dy
                        ERROR: It was not possible to determine pkg remote version
                        >>> Updating repositories metadata...
                        Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        repository pfSense-core has no meta file, using default settings
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        Unable to update repository pfSense-core
                        Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        repository pfSense has no meta file, using default settings
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        Unable to update repository pfSense
                        Error updating repositories!
                        ERROR: It was not possible to determine pfSense-upgrade remote version
                        ERROR: It was not possible to determine pfSense-upgrade remote version
                        >>> Upgrading pfSense-upgrade...
                        Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        repository pfSense-core has no meta file, using default settings
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        Unable to update repository pfSense-core
                        Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        repository pfSense has no meta file, using default settings
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                        Unable to update repository pfSense
                        Error updating repositories!
                        [23.09-BETA][admin@]/root: pkg update
                        Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                        Fetching meta.conf: 100%    163 B   0.2kB/s    00:01
                        Fetching packagesite.pkg: 100%    2 KiB   1.6kB/s    00:01
                        Processing entries: 100%
                        pfSense-core repository update completed. 5 packages processed.
                        Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                        Fetching meta.conf: 100%    163 B   0.2kB/s    00:01
                        Fetching packagesite.pkg: 100%  191 KiB  17.8kB/s    00:11
                        Processing entries: 100%
                        pfSense repository update completed. 727 packages processed.
                        All repositories are up to date.
                        
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                        • yon 0Y
                          yon 0 @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10

                          I participate in a lot of software development tests and provide suggestions. pfsense is the one where I see the most errors, and the most important ones are a lot of errors that have a major impact. Other software test versions do not have major errors that make the system unusable.

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                            yon 0 @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz

                            haha。。 The pfsense team is too conservative. Many of the software developments I have participated in are innovative technologies that do not exist today, and we have developed and created them ourselves. However, pfsense does not even dare to follow up and use them.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              That http header error is just extra noise, it's been removed from the latest package version.

                              But it is a sign it could not fetch the file which is interesting since pkg update succeeds.

                              Does it still fail if you run pfSense-repoc first?

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                                yon 0 @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10

                                After entering this command, nothing happens.

                                
                                [23.09-BETA][admin@]/root: pfSense-repoc
                                [23.09-BETA][admin@]/root:
                                
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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  That's expected. Can it now upgrade?

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                                    yon 0 @stephenw10
                                    last edited by yon 0

                                    @stephenw10

                                    waiting for this long time

                                    [23.09-BETA][admin@]/root: pfSense-upgrade -dy
                                    ERROR: It was not possible to determine pkg remote version
                                    >>> Updating repositories metadata...
                                    Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    repository pfSense-core has no meta file, using default settings
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    Unable to update repository pfSense-core
                                    Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    repository pfSense has no meta file, using default settings
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    Unable to update repository pfSense
                                    Error updating repositories!
                                    ERROR: It was not possible to determine pfSense-upgrade remote version
                                    ERROR: It was not possible to determine pfSense-upgrade remote version
                                    >>> Upgrading pfSense-upgrade...
                                    Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    repository pfSense-core has no meta file, using default settings
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    Unable to update repository pfSense-core
                                    Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    repository pfSense has no meta file, using default settings
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                    pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                    Unable to update repository pfSense
                                    Error updating repositories!
                                    
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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      IIRC you previously had issues with IPv6 failing there. Try: pfSense-upgrade -d4

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                                        yon 0 @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10

                                        [23.09-BETA][admin@]/root: pfSense-upgrade -d4
                                        ERROR: It was not possible to determine pkg remote version
                                        >>> Updating repositories metadata...
                                        Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        repository pfSense-core has no meta file, using default settings
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        Unable to update repository pfSense-core
                                        Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        repository pfSense has no meta file, using default settings
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        Unable to update repository pfSense
                                        Error updating repositories!
                                        ERROR: It was not possible to determine pfSense-upgrade remote version
                                        ERROR: It was not possible to determine pfSense-upgrade remote version
                                        >>> Upgrading pfSense-upgrade...
                                        Updating pfSense-core repository catalogue...
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        repository pfSense-core has no meta file, using default settings
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        Unable to update repository pfSense-core
                                        Updating pfSense repository catalogue...
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        repository pfSense has no meta file, using default settings
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        pkg-static: An error occured while fetching package
                                        pkg-static: Impossible to get the value from Last-Modified HTTP header
                                        Unable to update repository pfSense
                                        Error updating repositories!
                                        
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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          And I assume the same if you force v6?

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                                            yon 0 @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10

                                            Oct 15 01:31:53 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] De-installed earlyshellcmd(s).
                                            Oct 15 01:31:53 check_reload_status 507 Syncing firewall
                                            Oct 15 01:31:53 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] Installed earlyshellcmd(s).
                                            Oct 15 01:31:53 check_reload_status 507 Syncing firewall
                                            Oct 15 01:31:54 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] De-installed interface group (WireGuard).
                                            Oct 15 01:31:54 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] Installed interface group (WireGuard).
                                            Oct 15 01:31:55 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] De-installed Unbound ACL group (WireGuard).
                                            Oct 15 01:31:55 check_reload_status 507 Syncing firewall
                                            Oct 15 01:31:55 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] Installed Unbound ACL group (WireGuard).
                                            Oct 15 01:31:55 check_reload_status 507 Syncing firewall
                                            Oct 15 01:31:56 php_wg 53450 /usr/local/pkg/wireguard/includes/wg_service.inc: Configuration Change: (system): [pfSense-pkg-WireGuard] Applied package default settings as necessary.

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