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Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN

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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @lpfw
    last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:14 PM

    @lpfw said in Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN:

    If I go to fw log section resolution works.

    Did you remove 9.9.9.9? While it might work now. Next if it asks 9.9.9.9 its not..

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      lpfw @johnpoz
      last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:16 PM

      @johnpoz

      Correct I moved quad9 to second place

      Can't recall why I wanted it first but I guess it's fine if internal NS is down it goes direct to quad

      internal ns points to quad9 anyway

      lol

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        jrey @lpfw
        last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:22 PM

        @lpfw said in Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN:

        moved quad9 to second place

        or better as noted remove it completely

        where do your internal clients point to for DNS
        the pfSense or the internal server?

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @lpfw
          last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:22 PM

          @lpfw said in Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN:

          Correct I moved quad9 to second place

          That is not going to solve the problem.. As I clearly stated - you have no idea which NS a client might ask at any give point..

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            jrey @johnpoz
            last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:25 PM

            @johnpoz

            all yours

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              lpfw @jrey
              last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:27 PM

              @jrey

              I think I have everything set to point to the internal Pihole (DHCP clients, IPSEC clients)

              I guess the crux of what was hoping for was in the FW rule logs window, have pfsense automatically resolve IPs to names, instead of me having to click on all the "i" for resolution.

              chatgpt seems to say pfsense will not support this.

              Thanks again for the second set of eyes !

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                AndyRH
                last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:34 PM

                Will pfSense resolve logged IPs to names? When looking at real time traffic, mine resolves the names just fine, but the logs have always had IPs.

                If I were being evil and I knew you logged names, not IPs, I would hijack an IP and do evil, then return to normal while you grill some innocent.

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @lpfw
                  last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 4:40 PM

                  @lpfw said in Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN:

                  have pfsense automatically resolve IPs to names, instead of me having to click on all the "i" for resolution.

                  That would be a horrible horrible idea to be honest. You could have 1000's of nonsense IPs hitting your wan for example... attempting to do a PTR for every one of those IPs - many of which won't resolve anyway is just spending cycles and extra dns queries for zero reason to be honest.

                  If that was an option - that would be pretty high on my list to make sure disabled..

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                    lpfw @johnpoz
                    last edited by lpfw Oct 19, 2023, 4:43 PM Oct 19, 2023, 4:43 PM

                    @johnpoz

                    yeah def of course, but in some cases could be helpful

                    ie

                    in my case the scenario would be

                    tshooting an issue

                    only internal fw stuff (LAN<->IOT) is logging

                    would want to see names not IPs

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @lpfw
                      last edited by johnpoz Oct 19, 2023, 4:49 PM Oct 19, 2023, 4:48 PM

                      @lpfw said in Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN:

                      would want to see names not IPs

                      then click the little i - all instances of that IP in the log will now show up with its resolved name under it.

                      Your troubleshooting X can not talk to Y sort of thing - I would think before you could even start you would have the IPs involved.

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                        jrey @lpfw
                        last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 5:21 PM

                        @lpfw said in Does pFsense not do PTR records? Won't resolve IP to name on LAN:

                        crux of what was hoping for was in the FW rule logs window, have pfsense automatically resolve IPs to names,

                        Well now see that's a different issue, which has nothing really to do with pfSense's ability to resolve names if configured correctly -

                        you've turn this into a feature request to have the Firewall views (logs) just resolve the names auto-magically when you view those logs.

                        Were I building such a feature (and I'm not) you could base it on and only at the time the page is being loaded, under certain conditions - for example

                        on the Log Filter setting -Quantity

                        if the Quantity is 10000 - well you are just plain silly for trying to view it here anyway - move on

                        500 is records is questionable.

                        but if you select viewing for say 50 or even 100 records (say <= 100) resolving them in real time as the page loads is no worse in response time (page load) than someone trying to display say 1000 records without resolution.

                        That said, yeah generally not a good idea (on the pfSense box, not what it is made for), but with little effort if it important to you, you can syslog the records and report on them elsewhere if and as needed.

                        There are a ton of tools for doing this, any they will all show you names resolved on reports.

                        There are also some reports (views) within pfBlockerNG (for example) that will display the results with name already resolved.
                        Alerts View
                        There are sections, on this view each having their own count of records to be display and each with how many records to display

                        blocked, DNSBL, Permit, Match
                        200, 25, 200, 25 are my record counts in each of those sections.
                        takes no time at all to load this view containing 4 section all names resolved (if they actually have a PTR) .

                        this is the "Source" column from that

                        login-to-view

                        Certainly doable, you have options.

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                          jrey @lpfw
                          last edited by Oct 19, 2023, 7:10 PM

                          @lpfw

                          it is open source after all

                          here is the "Firewall Logs" widget on the dashboard

                          login-to-view

                          since it is only display 10 (my setting, because on my dashboard anything more than that makes want to scroll, and I don't like scrolling dashboards.)

                          --- wait oh my is that name resolution working -
                          FWIW, it is not any slower

                          I won't keep this because 2 lines of code added, and I don't need it, but as a POC there it is.

                          login-to-view
                          as a side note, some people have crazy long name records. Already displaying in a smaller font, and I still have to wrap to fit the table provided by the widget.

                          So when there is a will there is a way. Enjoy the ride.

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