23.09.rc Displaying 'later version than official' flag

[jrey]

@RobbieTT

Understood, I had not read the recent blog post to which you refer,

It won't impact me. I'm licensed. It will certainly impact a lot of "home" users and impact (likely in a negative fashion) and Netgate's ability to solicit and maintain the support of the open source concept.

The device and software (packages) on it are good, but not that good, that if push comes to shove, I wouldn't just unplug the device and move to something else.

I could give specific examples of packages that get installed, and likely on a lot of devices, that are simply full of security holes and/or out and out are subject to potential failures that can lead to security issues (that's open source). That's the risk and the game.

Netgate will likely come to a fork in the road where they have to decide (stay open or closed) good and bad in each of those, both them and users.

disclaimer, I have no vested interest in Negate. Could continue to "run" with or without their device and/or software. They will obviously proceed in a direction they feel best for their model. And users will ultimately do the same.
I've already crossed the bridge regarding the use of Netgate in certain situations, because of those potential failures and in those cases we use just use different products.

Anyway this is somewhat off topic of the 23.09rc etc that debacle likely won't stop either way. It has been outstanding and consistent since at least 22.05 where every new update brings a "list" debacle.

[RobbieTT]

@stephenw10

Steve - TVM.

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[jrey]

@RobbieTT

and so it begins

https://forum.netgate.com/topic/183637/loved-past-tense-pfsense/5

(sorry my last off topic post on this thread)

[jrey]

@stephenw10 said in 23.09.rc Displaying 'later version than official' flag:

upstream OpenSSL fix which should be available very shortly.

can we revisit or can you define the term "shortly" ?

[stephenw10]

The fix is in. Baring something unforeseen expect the RC later today.

[jrey]

@stephenw10

I guess we must be in the area of "something unforeseen"

In other news, the blinky light stopped (not last night, but the night before) so yesterday's yesterday. Maybe tomorrow's yesterday will be the RC day. We can only guess.

Is what it is.

[stephenw10]

@jrey said in 23.09.rc Displaying 'later version than official' flag:

I guess we must be in the area of "something unforeseen"

Yup there was an issue with OpenSSL. That's now fixed and we are testing internally. Should be public 'shortly'.

[jrey]

@stephenw10

Thanks again for checking and the update. Can't resist poking some fun at you here.

previously you said it was OpenSSL and would be "Very Shortly"
now it is still OpenSSL and "Shortly"

so for future reference I'll now understand "Very Shortly" is longer than "Shortly"

also sounds like someone didn't read the warning
https://forum.netgate.com/topic/182213/heads-up-openssl-3-0-x-deprecates-a-lot-of-old-weak-algorithms-and-may-require-manual-changes

I'll go play with a domain controller that went belly up -- that sounds like fun coffee filled morning, and then check again shortly. Cheers

[stephenw10]

Ha, yup. It's the patch for the recent CVE that failed to apply as expected. But we have a good build and are testing it now. So far no issues. I really think it will be 'shortly'

[RobbieTT]

@jrey

Regards.

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[jrey]

@stephenw10

okay --- just FYI at this point it still shows also (23.05.1 RC) as a "Next Stable Version" Even though 23.09 RC is also listed.

Be back "shortly" - click

[RobbieTT]

@jrey
At my end:

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[jrey]

@RobbieTT

It's alive but still shows 23.05.1 RC

is the difference maybe that you previously updated to "r" that was temporarily available as I recall ? (@stephenw10)

I never did that.

[stephenw10]

Shouldn't make any difference. Let me check...

[stephenw10]

@jrey You are running amd64 there?

[jrey]

@stephenw10
on a Netgate 2100

[stephenw10]

Ok, that only affected ARM and is corrected now but may not update unless you force it. It's only the field description, it doesn't affect the actual branch used.

[RobbieTT]

@jrey

First hour of use milestone achieved:

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[jrey]

@RobbieTT

Same

No show stoppers at this point.
All the packages I use are so far running as expected. Of course none have changed either, and that is also as expected.

it compiled, it loads, ship it !

[jrey]

@stephenw10

After a while (could have been a sooner than the hour or so, I checked again after lunch) it must have reached out and or processed itself into the correct version list..

it now shows "Next Stable Version 23.09 RC" and "Current Stable Version (23.05.1)"

It just took a while.
No issue it is just in the smoke and mirrors.

@stephenw10 said in 23.09.rc Displaying 'later version than official' flag:

unless you force it

I took that to mean go for lunch

Thanks